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SargeRX8

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SargeRX8 Grand Master

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My Apexi has let me down. I am going to get a new pod filter. Too much talk about this 3A filter on other websites but I haven't come across much users using them with skylines. Also a worker at a auto store suggested that the 3A test were kind of bs and proven to have different results on different cars...

Some filters come rated with a max hp rating and what not. I need something which will, just work for anything and need something that will filter. Anyone have any suggestions?

I am verily considering a arc box...

Please dont close this and ask me to search, I have and most people are talking about the using stock air box with a good panel. I don't want to use my stock box. Also the people in the Rb25 dyno thread all say pod filter, not many are specific...

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PM-R33 Grand Master

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With filters you either sacrifice filtration for flow or vice versa. The better ones are in the middle. Every filter is a restriction (running no filter is the best power you will get as there is no restriction).

People look into filter choice WAY to much. Thinking they will magically add a noticable amount of power changing from one to another (unless you had a really shit one in there before). I've ran my car on the dyno back to back with the filter removed and there was no difference so it must be doing ok - It's a Spectre one by the way.

All the major brands are just as good as the next; K&N, Blitz, Apexi etc. Just pick what suits your budget and what will fit well.

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I have a 3A filter, i got it because no one ever had a bad word to say about them, beats paying ridiculous prices for named brands for little/zero difference. What i do know is from personal experience say away from the green HKS foam style filters. They filter jack shit. btw are you sargeRX from gotgames?

R31Nismoid Grand Master

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People look into filter choice WAY to much. Thinking they will magically add a noticable amount of power changing from one to another (unless you had a really shit one in there before).

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ARTZ Grand Master

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I changed from an apexi pod to a KN panel

1..on sale at repco

2...you can wash it

didnt make any noticable KW difference though did lose a couple on dyno but this could be a variety of things.

i also find the panel nice and quiet and has a smoother transition onto boost..but yeah differences are minimal..

SargeRX8 Grand Master

SargeRX8

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Yea apexi is rated highly here

What happend to yours?

I dont know why or how but possibly due to heat the gap between the filter and afm was just enough to let foreign particles pass through and cause damage to my turbo, minor damage but damage none the less. I've never had issues running the standard neck style filters. Even when putting evening back together I noticed a gap between the filter and afm so I had to silicone seal it. Yes I am running a gasket. It was the standard applied one, now I made a new rubber one. Also now I over tightened it and one of the gold grommets which holds the screw is turning so f**king shit f**k. Some guy from malaysia is selling the apexi pods, new in box for 50 but sorry I dont give money to that peasant counterfeit country.

Yes I am sargerx8 off gg lol, 1BAD33 now.

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ARTZ Grand Master

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silicon seal ? ..there is a gsaket on the airbox you should use there..I had similar problems when i forgot to put the gasket in oneday...also I had those screws spinning, but should be alright as long as you push the thread back in, maybe superglue or something should hold it

SargeRX8 Grand Master

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Its a rubber gasket piece thing, I added my own silicone shit to it to seal it off completely. Really bodgy the design of these screws. You've got metal thread held lightly in plastic.... Seriously.

Who else noticed the spelling mistake on FANNEL on the apexi filter? I had two of them both had the same typo. Now I see some using FUNNEL. Did they correct it or are these fake units? Most of the fake shit on eBay is listed as HKS style APEXI style.

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Brezza Proficient

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i recomend getting any decent panel filter for your stock air box.

I've got a K&N in mine and i'm pushing 350+rwkw

there isnt really any need for a pod, the extra surface area you get with a pod is negated by the fact that you're sucking in more hot air vs slightly less air but cooler. so in reality they're going to give almost identical results.

i've had foam pods in the car before, the turbo spooled slightly earlier but power dropped off because the pod was just sucking in a lot of hot air.

plus when i compare what gets caught in the panel filter vs the foam one, i'd choose the panel one anyday. it does the job of actually filtering what goes into the engine. foam ones catch nothing. you're better off running some panty hoes over your AFM if you've got a foam filter.

SargeRX8 Grand Master

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I wouldn't get a foam filter. When you think about them, they will have a path all the way through and dirt will eventually find its way through. A pod filter is the same as a panel filter just round. Mine is shielded properly from the engine and has a top cover too with a pipe from underneath to the front bumper.

Hanaldo Grand Master

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silicon seal ? ..there is a gsaket on the airbox you should use there..I had similar problems when i forgot to put the gasket in oneday...also I had those screws spinning, but should be alright as long as you push the thread back in, maybe superglue or something should hold it

Epoxy will work perfectly.

Its a rubber gasket piece thing, I added my own silicone shit to it to seal it off completely. Really bodgy the design of these screws. You've got metal thread held lightly in plastic.... Seriously.

Well it's not really dodgy considering they are not supposed to be done up that tightly. I've never over-tightened mine and hence have never had a problem.

Also, I wouldn't trust 3A pod filters anymore. I used to think they were fine until my mate decided to buy one for his 32. Lasted 2 weeks before the turbo (Greddy TD-05, so not even that big) sucked the filter paper out of the frame and into the turbo. It didn't cause any damage as it was on the dyno at the time so the tuner shut it off straight away and pulled it out. Mate thought it was probably just a dodgy unit seeing as he couldn't find anyone else with the same problem, so he took it back to the store and got it replaced. Same thing happened again the first time he pulled full boost in 4th, but this time he was on the track. He is just about finished installing the new engine and turbo... whistling.gif

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there is nothing wrong with apexi pods. i'ev personally used them on probably a dozen of my own cars (and 2 at a time on my GTRs). they don't need to be done up with a fking breaker bar. they should seal just fine. are you sure it was genuine?

i would either just buy another genuine apexi filter (if you're worried I have a few spares and can happily flog you one - I buy mine direct from apex in japan).

or buy a K+N pod filter. they filter well, are cleanable and last forever. some people have trouble with the filter oil but it's not rocket science. I've used K+N and never had problems, just don't over-oil it. just like don't over-tighten the apexi pod. some people think more is better and tighten the fk out of everything, overfill their oil, etc. it's a recipe for headaches.

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i recomend getting any decent panel filter for your stock air box.

I've got a K&N in mine and i'm pushing 350+rwkw

The GTR airboxes are different. A Gtt or gtst airbox will not make 350rwkw.

I am using an Apexi Pod with no issues and making good power (245rwkw on 98 and 280rwkw on E85).

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brezza are you using only the stock snorkel as well or something custom?

Mine is a R32 GTR

i'm using the stock airbox and still with the stock snorkel that goes under the headlight and into the front bumper. i've taken that resonator thing out behind the front bar and infront of the wheel.

the tuner tested whether any gains were to be had from opening the airbox and the car still made the same power.

so the R32 GTR airbox isnt very restrictive IMO

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My Apexi has let me down. I am going to get a new pod filter. Too much talk about this 3A filter on other websites but I haven't come across much users using them with skylines. Also a worker at a auto store suggested that the 3A test were kind of bs and proven to have different results on different cars...

How have you proven that your apexi pod has let you down? Did you take the filter off on the dyno and there was a large power difference?

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