Formula One 2012

[Berk]

Imagine if F1 was just "whoever can build the fastest car wins"

Imagine the awesome shit we would see, and crashes.

[sav man]

If it wasn't for DRS Hamilton probably wouldn't have won the race, cause he never would have passed Alonso after the pit stops.

a faster car should have to pass a slower car because it's faster, not because it's got a button on the dash. If it's so much faster, what is it doing behind the slower car to start with?

[dezz]

Perez to Ferrari in 2013?

[JAS-25T]

If it wasn't for DRS Hamilton probably wouldn't have won the race, cause he never would have passed Alonso after the pit stops.

a faster car should have to pass a slower car because it's faster, not because it's got a button on the dash. If it's so much faster, what is it doing behind the slower car to start with?

Because pitstop.

[ctjet]

been trying to get one of those helmets for years

no such luck

[MattR]

Imagine if F1 was just "whoever can build the fastest car wins"

Imagine the awesome shit we would see, and crashes.

yep agree, fastest car little down force and biggest balls comes out on top, none of this i can push a button to help me sail past a car

[Roy]

Last year I think there was a place for DRS, but with this years tyres i think the DRS takes it all a little too far. The fact that Romain on similar tyres could sail past Alonso etc means its a little too contrived

[Kinks]

a faster car should have to pass a slower car because it's faster, not because it's got a button on the dash. If it's so much faster, what is it doing behind the slower car to start with?

The whole reason for DRS is that cars are aero-limited for grip. If you're behind another car you lose so much grip because the airflow is disturbed that you can't pass even if you're almost 2 seconds a lap quicker in clear air.

They should bring back smaller capacity V10s to limit power, reduce aero and increase mechanical grip. Get rid of DRS, keep KERS why not.. bring back refuelling so that fuel load has an impact on race strategy (long stint vs short stint etc) and make the tyres not *quite* so temperamental.

[NISMATT]

Last year I think there was a place for DRS, but with this years tyres i think the DRS takes it all a little too far. The fact that Romain on similar tyres could sail past Alonso etc means its a little too contrived

Yeah I agree it was needed but not anymore, the tyres spice things up enough, too much even. Whatever happened to ground effect making a comeback to overcome the passing problem anyway? They just replaced it with DRS.

[ctjet]

http://f1zoom.co.cc/?year=2012&race=canada&img=2003&full=1

[hrd-hr30]

Sometimes, some tracks, DRS works. But, don't you feel Canada offered plenty of slipstreaming in areas of the track prior to the DRS zone? I do, but it was obvious that although they "could" have gone for the pass there and then, they instead elect to wait for the "no brainer" DRS zone where they just get a free ticket to pass.

I'm just saying, I don't think that THIS track needs DRS.

And Harry..... where art thou? Paging Harry.... you angry old f**ker.....

lol, didn't bother getting up to watch this week's lottery - qualifying or race. First time in many many years - longer than I can remember. Didn't even bother with the replay last night. I hate DRS and I hate the tyres. And since that's what F1 is all about these days, maybe I don't actually like F1 anymore... Watching it only seems to disappoint and frustrate me.

RE aerodynamics - the cars for the last 2 years have been able to follow as closely as ever in history. The changes to the wings has seen to that. The problem now is that if you stay in the dirty air, you kill the Pirellis too quickly. Several drivers have demonstrated that already this year, and several have come out and said it too. Instead of not being able to run up close to another car because they physically can't, they are now consciously deciding to hang back a bit to conserve their tyres. Tyres are the problem, not aero.

Every time they introduce measures to artificially 'help' the racing, it actually hinders the real racing.

[mickey]

bring back the turbo 4's ah everyone should be running twin turbo straight 6's...makes sense...say around 2.6Ltr in capacity...limit RPM to say 12000 to save engine and R&D and you'll have twice the power, more death = more win.

DRS is fine on some tracks but ruin others...didn't really help much in Monaco now did it...I think it's time to bring back refuelling and that will bring back far more strategy and allow more pit overtakes than relying upon DRS as much. For that matter, why not allow teams more than the 2 tyre choices per race...hell make it they can choose any tyre for a track event just limit it to 2 sets each tyre or 1 set each haha...imagine that.

[Basti]

bring back the turbo 4's ah everyone should be running twin turbo straight 6's...makes sense...say around 2.6Ltr in capacity...limit RPM to say 12000 to save engine and R&D and you'll have twice the power, more death = more win.

so you are saying nissan should participate? /rb26fo'lyf

[sh@un]

Didn't they ban Fan assisted ground effect? Not sure if anyone got to race with it but I remember reading something about it

of course, the Brabham BT46B 'fan car'- smashed everything silly for 1 race then was promptly banned

those sort of fans are currently covered under the 'moveable aerodynamic devices ban (apart from DRS). but say the FIA provides standardised drop-in fan(s) with the exact same maximum cfm rating (like the way IRL engines have control pop-off valves attached), and the whole DRS thing would likely become redundant.

[dezz]

So...Anyone heard anything about Perez to Ferrari in 2013?

There was a post on the official Alonso facebook but it wasn't the best English...

'Ferrari F1 in the new star Sergio Perez 2013 Alonso Perez 2013'

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[ctjet]

needs a schui head