Formula One 2012

[hrd-hr30]

every team in the field worked it out at exactly the same time then, eh?

I don't buy it. Pirelli were getting bad press about their tyres falling apart. Tyres were just about all that was being talked about, and not in a good way.

Suddenly at Silverstone it stops happening to everyone, and hasn't happened again since. The falling off the cliff, the random midfielder popping up out of position...

And none of the engineers who were talking about how difficult it was to make the tyres work has since said boo - if they had suddenly found the secret, they'd be jumping up and down with excitement... But suddenly tyres barely rate a mention anywhere.

Hey, its a much better conspiracy theory than RBR sabotaged their point haul and discriminated against our boy by using the same 3 stop strategy for both drivers!

Edited August 5, 2012 by hrd-hr30

[wolverine]

It is no better or worse as a conspiracy theory.

[ctjet]

can we name it the "2013 F1 racing but mostly conspiracy thread" for next year

[dezz]

Harry is the only one raising a decent argument at the moment...

Not even whinging Webber himself felt the team cheated him. No ones doubting it was a terrible call, but they obviously thought they were onto a winner...

[ssxRicho]

every team in the field worked it out at exactly the same time then, eh?

I don't buy it. Pirelli were getting bad press about their tyres falling apart. Tyres were just about all that was being talked about, and not in a good way.

Suddenly at Silverstone it stops happening to everyone, and hasn't happened again since. The falling off the cliff, the random midfielder popping up out of position...

And none of the engineers who were talking about how difficult it was to make the tyres work has since said boo - if they had suddenly found the secret, they'd be jumping up and down with excitement... But suddenly tyres barely rate a mention anywhere.

Hey, its a much better conspiracy theory than RBR sabotaged their point haul and discriminated against our boy by using the same 3 stop strategy for both drivers!

Adding weight, Ferrari's long standing (back from Enzo's days) relationship with Pirelli.

[89CAL]

Is it at all possible that with the millions of sensors/data streams that the Formula 1 teams have access to, and the continued development of the cars, that the teams have just figured out when the tyres will go off and have developed the car to help tyre wear?

And perhaps Red Bull compared the data from the Hungary race to the previous races (their cars compared to others) and thought all other cars would start having tyre issues soon so they decided to Pit?

Seriously, with the millions of dollars spent in Formula 1, I highly doubt that tyre wear is going to get the better of the teams in such a way that they cant work out a way to decrese tyre wear.

Red Bull probably acted on data that should have been right, but just didnt come in to play because either the other cars have improved that much, or the track was just in such a good state that the tyre wear was not as severe

[dezz]

Even still, the fact that EVERY TEAM magically worked it out at the same time doesn't quite add up...

[DJRIFT]

the past few races has seen less rubber left on the track also. my just be a coincidence but it used to be a joke by the end of a race there was a clear racing line maked with rubber.

maybe who knows?

[wolverine]

Even still, the fact that EVERY TEAM magically worked it out at the same time doesn't quite add up...

Everyone got the memo except RBR apparently?!?!

[sav man]

I think Pirelli changed the compound too. The bad press is starting to add up.

[MattR]

ha-ha Pasta crashes when even not racing;

[dezz]

HAHAHAHAHAHA what a f**king spud

[ctjet]

fingers crossed he and massa disappear forever next year

[wolverine]

I was waiting for Frank Williams to roll up to him and give him a forehead slap.

[ctjet]

roll up to him

lol

[tweety bird]

ha-ha Pasta crashes when even not racing;

[Roy]

Ferrari have hired the head of Bridgestones F1 tyre development. He has been with Ferrari since December now working full time with a team on understanding how the tyres will work.

Sauber, Ferrari even Williams understood the tyres better than the others. RBR took a while to catch up, Lotus seem to have it backwards to the other teams with their car quicker on tyres other struggle to turn on and vice versa.

I think its overly simplistic to say they all worked out the tyres at the same time. Look at McLaren, they are still struggling after a good start to the season and cant find the consistency they need.

Not saying there isnt a chance you are right about the tyres....but I just dont see it. Go back and consider the nature of the race weekends and the compounds used for the weekends where majority struggled vs good weekends and you will see the compounds are not the same

[ctjet]

didint know nando had this

kind of lost respect for him a little now

shame

[dezz]

I'm sure he'll be devastated

[ctjet]

Mercedes are reportedly considering a partial withdrawal from F1 that would see them involved in a "semi-official" team from 2014.

According to French weekly Auto Hebdo in recent months the powers-that-be at the German car manufacturer have been asking themselves the question "how to get rid of a costly team with disappointing results while still enjoying its benefits?"

Unhappy with Bernie Ecclestone's decision not to give them a seat on the board when or if Formula One is floated on the Singapore stock exchange, it is believed that Mercedes have not signed the new Concorde Agreement thereby refusing to commit to Formula One long-term.

Added to that, a report emerged in June in a German business paper, Handelsblatt, claiming that Mercedes could quit over the Gerhard Gribkowsky bribery scandal.

The company was quick to deny the rumours with a spokesman saying: "Our Formula 1 commitment is for the long term and an integral component of our company philosophy."

The reports of their departure, though, have refused to die down with Auto Hebdo stating that Mercedes are set to change their level of participation in F1 at the end of next season.

Instead of having the Mercedes AMG team and focusing on their ownership of it, the revised team will be known as AMG F1.

According to Global Motorsport Media, the team will "be run by team boss Ross Brawn" while seven-time World Champion Michael Schumacher will stay on as a driver.

Mercedes will continue to provide engines to customers

ze germans are not happy with the old bern-miester