Er34 Modifications.

[macca911]

Hey People,

Last week I destroyed my stock ER34 Ceramic Turbo and I'm in the process of buying some parts to get back on the road.

So far I have purchased:

- HKS GT-RS Turbo

- Apexi Power FC

- Z32 AFM

- Walbro Fuel Pump

Current Modifications Include:

- HKS Hi-Power Exhaust

- Tein Super Streets W/ EDFC

I am looking at getting a V-SPL front mound and Greddy Radiator and plan to run roughly 1bar boost.

All I have left to purchase is injectors but cant seem to find a good set around 500cc - 780cc which is what I believe I need for this setup. Can anyone recommend a good quality injector (good atomisation and wont cause rough idle) that will not bottleneck roughly 270rwkw?

I have read mixed reviews on the Nismo 480cc Injectors regarding the power that they can handle...

Any other thoughts or ideas on this setup would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers Craig.

[Mitcho_7]

I dont think the new radiator is needed unless there's something wrong with your current one, but I'm not an expert.

Can't remember if you mentioned one or not but a boost controller of some description might be an idea as well.

If your not keen on cutting a hole in your car for the return pipe on the fmic you listed, maybe look at a blitz return flow one, but that's up to you.

Edited February 23, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[JustinP]

Deatschwerks 600cc.

Hey People,

Last week I destroyed my stock ER34 Ceramic Turbo and I'm in the process of buying some parts to get back on the road.

So far I have purchased:

- HKS GT-RS Turbo

- Apexi Power FC

- Z32 AFM

- Walbro Fuel Pump

Current Modifications Include:

- HKS Hi-Power Exhaust

- Tein Super Streets W/ EDFC

I am looking at getting a V-SPL front mound and Greddy Radiator and plan to run roughly 1bar boost.

All I have left to purchase is injectors but cant seem to find a good set around 500cc - 780cc which is what I believe I need for this setup. Can anyone recommend a good quality injector (good atomisation and wont cause rough idle) that will not bottleneck roughly 270rwkw?

I have read mixed reviews on the Nismo 480cc Injectors regarding the power that they can handle...

Any other thoughts or ideas on this setup would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers Craig.

[Hanaldo]

Agreed, the radiator isn't needed.

With the injectors, I take it you want something that is direct plug and play? Of the list that you put up, I believe only the Power Enterprise injectors will fit straight in. The Nismo 480's will as well, so depends on what your goals are for the car. I would recommend getting bigger injectors to accommodate any changes you want to make in the future.

[SargeRX8]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Injector-Dynamics-ID1000CC-Skline-RB25DET-R32-R33-TOP-F-/290583109310?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a81a5ebe

Pretty sure the R33 and R32 aren't top feed but the R34 is. These injectors would be good.

[R31Nismoid]

I have read mixed reviews on the Nismo 480cc Injectors regarding the power that they can handle...

What do you mean mixed reviews?

A 480cc injector, will support 480hp (360kw) on PULP - or there abouts for the sake of the conversation at hand (it's not 100% accurate, but near enough).

Also consider GTRs will make ~300rwkw on factory injectors. They use a 440cc injector.

Nismo 480cc will be more injector than you'll need for a GT-RS.

What i would be more concerned about is the Walbro fuel pump. This is the suspect part. Some seem to flow fine, others simply do not - that is the 'mixed review' part of your setup.

I also think you'll need more than 1bar for the power you are chasing.

[Hanaldo]

They are the best ^

But they won't suit the stock setup.

[R31Nismoid]

Aren't the Nismo 480 one of the only bolt-in for a NEO?

[Hanaldo]

Aren't the Nismo 480 one of the only bolt-in for a NEO?

From what I found when looking for my injectors, yes.

From memory my options were the Nismo 480's (wanted bigger), Siemens Deka's (tuner told me not to), Deatschwerks (couldn't find a lot of info), and the Power Enterprise which is what I ended up going with.

[KiwiRS4T]

Get the ID1000s (Bosch) they work well at low duty cycles as well.

Forget the radiator

Does the HKS exhaust come with a front pipe? You will need a 3in front pipe.

Consider getting a Nistune board.

[R31Nismoid]

From what I found when looking for my injectors, yes.

From memory my options were the Nismo 480's (wanted bigger), Siemens Deka's (tuner told me not to), Deatschwerks (couldn't find a lot of info), and the Power Enterprise which is what I ended up going with.

Well you said:

But they won't suit the stock setup.

What stock setup?

I'm confuse

[Hanaldo]

Well you said:

What stock setup?

I'm confuse

Oh no no, that was your post getting in the way lol

I was referring to the ID1000's that Artz posted. They won't suit the stock setup. I took a bit long replying and didn't see your post so I didn't bother quoting haha.

[R31Nismoid]

Ah we have sense!

Very good!

[KiwiRS4T]

Oh no no, that was your post getting in the way lol

I was referring to the ID1000's that Artz posted. They won't suit the stock setup. I took a bit long replying and didn't see your post so I didn't bother quoting haha.

They are topfeed. Do they not fit physically or electrically?

[Hanaldo]

You can get the 14mm collar, so they fit physically. Need a spacer because they are full length while GTT injectors are 3/4 length. They use different plugs is the biggest issue, not a big deal if you know what you're doing or getting them installed. So it's not a huge lot of stuffing around to fit them.

Was just mentioning in case the OP is after drop in OEM replacements and doesn't want to modify anything.

[R31Nismoid]

You can just buy adaptor plugs, makes it easier as well for those worried about defects, as opposed to re-wiring the loom

[Hanaldo]

You can just buy adaptor plugs, makes it easier as well for those worried about defects, as opposed to re-wiring the loom

Yeh? Wasn't aware... Do you know where from? I just ordered a set of ID1000's, would be good if I didn't have to rewire.

[R31Nismoid]

They are to suit Bosch EV14, same as a ID1000, just cheaper (given ID's are just rebadge bosch).

NFI where you get them, but i know they exist.

If i find out i'll post up

[Aggroman]

ill just chime in on the injector side..

cheapest and best injector is the Bosch ID1000's.. they come in either 14mm 3/4 length (standard GTT fuel rail) or 11mm 3/4or full length (GTR fuel rail). They have the best low pulse and spray pattern and cause no idle issues myself, n1GTR and piggaz on here are 3 cars that use these injectors with perfect idle (these are the only 3 that I have had first hand contact with) They also come with the assosiated plugs, pins, baskets which is a 20 min job to repin your existing injector loom (which is 2 clips and 1 plug to remove)

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/375166-fuel-and-injector-needs/

^^ one of the cheapest i have found besides one shop on ebay in the US

[34GeeTeeTee]

ill just chime in on the injector side..

cheapest and best injector is the Bosch ID1000's.. they come in either 14mm 3/4 length (standard GTT fuel rail) or 11mm 3/4or full length (GTR fuel rail). They have the best low pulse and spray pattern and cause no idle issues myself, n1GTR and piggaz on here are 3 cars that use these injectors with perfect idle (these are the only 3 that I have had first hand contact with) They also come with the assosiated plugs, pins, baskets which is a 20 min job to repin your existing injector loom (which is 2 clips and 1 plug to remove)

http://www.skylinesa...injector-needs/

^^ one of the cheapest i have found besides one shop on ebay in the US

I ended up going with the XSPURTS 1000cc, they are a Bosch injector that is apparently modified, they were plug in units but they are full height which didn't matter to me as i ran a HKS rail anyway.... They weren't cheap though ($990 i think).... I originally had SARD 550's which were a drop in injector too, they just had a small rail spacer.

http://www.xspurtinjectors.com/

There are plenty of cheaper injectors out there, but i figured its one of those things i want to fit and forget so i spent the extra cash on them, they should suit any further upgrades too