S A U N S W - Texi, "the Original" @ Sutton Road

[MaTBoY]

I'm in. Will pay next pay.

Been looking forward to this event for ages.

[MBS206]

Should be fine. When measured at 30m in the open I'd be VERY surprised if it fails.

Also, the measuring gear is at the front gate and we are at the back of the property (so 300-350m away).

I wouldn't be.

Road noise tests are done at partial throttle holding a constant RPM. Full throttle = f**k loads louder.

When some cars back off they can spike 10 - 15 DBA...

The test of 95DBA at 30Metres that CAMS uses, is at full noise while the car is being driven on the circuit, and can be take at any point on the track, including when the car backfires.

It will be the same at Sutton, the vehicle must ALWAYS be under 95DBA from 30 metres away via EPA stipulation. Not just when it is being slightly free revved in the car park.

[N1GTR]

I wouldn't be.

Road noise tests are done at partial throttle holding a constant RPM. Full throttle = f**k loads louder.

When some cars back off they can spike 10 - 15 DBA...

The test of 95DBA at 30Metres that CAMS uses, is at full noise while the car is being driven on the circuit, and can be take at any point on the track, including when the car backfires.

It will be the same at Sutton, the vehicle must ALWAYS be under 95DBA from 30 metres away via EPA stipulation. Not just when it is being slightly free revved in the car park.

Some valid points there Matt but really it's a nonissue. Thanks though.

CAMS are not involved here, and Sutton has outlined to me their guidelines on noise which are the same as when I ran this event years ago.

If you'd like to continue, PM me, otherwise please don't post like that as it makes the noise issue sound like a big issue which will deter entrants who haven't been to this sort of thing before when realistically it won't be a drama.

Edit: It should also be said that previously SAUNSW has run at this venue more than once and not had any issues with noise - even allowing straight pipes for exhausts and externally vented wastegates doing burnouts on the skidpan. One time there was a complaint from the old bloke down the valley who has nothing better to do but the Australian Rally Championship cars running around with their anti lag/launch control was the reason for that. Inspectors came, I explained the ARC cars are loud, they watched for about 15 minutes then left and didn't care.

[mr moo]

I'll come to help if you need help.

[34GeeTeeTee]

Yep i highly doubt my car will be ready by then but if you need help ill be in on that too

[Husky33]

so if i have an external gate and pass the noise test is there an issue???

[Aggroman]

external gate is fine just cant vent to atmo.. we all know screamers wont pass due to the bonkers noise they make

[N1GTR]

I'll come to help if you need help.

Yep i highly doubt my car will be ready by then but if you need help ill be in on that too

Yes help is definitely needed at this place, all help will be greatly appreciated!!

So thanks guys, see you there

[N1GTR]

so if i have an external gate and pass the noise test is there an issue???

As Dave said, as long as the exhaust gasses all go through the exhaust and not out a screamer that's the main thing

[MBS206]

Some valid points there Matt but really it's a nonissue. Thanks though.

CAMS are not involved here, and Sutton has outlined to me their guidelines on noise which are the same as when I ran this event years ago.

If you'd like to continue, PM me, otherwise please don't post like that as it makes the noise issue sound like a big issue which will deter entrants who haven't been to this sort of thing before when realistically it won't be a drama.

Edit: It should also be said that previously SAUNSW has run at this venue more than once and not had any issues with noise - even allowing straight pipes for exhausts and externally vented wastegates doing burnouts on the skidpan. One time there was a complaint from the old bloke down the valley who has nothing better to do but the Australian Rally Championship cars running around with their anti lag/launch control was the reason for that. Inspectors came, I explained the ARC cars are loud, they watched for about 15 minutes then left and didn't care.

I wasn't making an issue of this, I was clearly pointing out that people need to be aware of how road noise tests are conducted are VERY different to EPA (At Events like this) and Race Track noise levels. Maybe we should stop educating people because facts might scare them... What do you think?

As you had noted, the DBA meter is a fair distance from the gate, so it should be a non issue.

[DaveO74]

I think I'll enter this one, just need some dyno time before hand to suss out a few things and if I get the ok I'm in.

Let's hope my only problem is a dying fuel pump......easy fix

Oooooooo, my first texi!!! Look like a cool track

[DJBarnstar]

I'm in.

Can't wait. Haven't done that course it in years! Last time was in the then new GTi golf for the press review.

Looking forward to it.

[34GeeTeeTee]

Yes help is definitely needed at this place, all help will be greatly appreciated!!

So thanks guys, see you there

Hey Stevo,

Keen to help out, whats involved? Do we just rock up as spectators and go from there? It'll be my first event as a member of NSW SAU but 99% sure it'll just be as a spectator...

Will be good to put faces to a few names regularly seen on SAU!!

[N1GTR]

Yeah basically just show up about 830am and say Hi, after drivers briefing I'll call the officials to stand to one side to make sure we have enough to start the day, then you choose a corner you like the view from (if you like to take pictures, thats cool bring the camera) and we set you up with a seat, some shade, few drinks and food etc plus a radio. In front of your spot will be a chicane made up of orange cones which cars have to drive through (just like the ones on the video). If someone doesnt drive through it at all, or knocks a cone down just say on the radio "car number XX hit 2 cones" or "car number XX totally missed gate" and we apply a time penalty to that cars overall course time. If a cone is knocked down, it's great if you can stand it back up before the next car comes through to save a course car having to do it (as it takes the course car longer because it has to come from the start whereas you're sitting right there). Only one car on the course at a time so just as I will say it to the officials on the day i'll say it now, dont be afraid of picking up the cone if one gets knocked down, if you radio in "cone knocked down" you can also say "and im picking it up" - we wont let the next car go until we hear "cone fixed" or something similar to let us know you're off the track.

As many cold drinks and hot food as you'd like will be brought out at regular intervals, also if any officials want to swap corners thats easily done too (for example, you can do corner 1 first, then corner 4, then corner 7 or whatever one you like the view from) - I wouldnt expect someone to sit in the same spot all day (of course if you prefer that, thats perfectly cool), so I'd expect the officials do say 2 hours at one corner, then 2 at another etc.

It doesnt matter even if you only want to do it for the morning and not the afternoon, all help is appreciated and it's so simple to do - plus you get WAY better viewing than any normal spectator will ever get at this place

[34GeeTeeTee]

Sounds like a plan... i should be there to help...

[Aggroman]

updates biches

[hamiltonau]

I want in but it sounds like I need to go bov shopping... And then get someone to weld it into the intake pipe..-aargh

[N1GTR]

Dont know how you figured that out - BOV's are not cared about. Screamer and straight through exhausts are the big no no's

[Scar]

Very keen. Will try n get sh!t organised in the next week or two n let you know

[BlackTemplar]

Im a newbie here, but I will try to be there, won't be racing though, but Canberra is closer to me than Syd and I figure its a good way to start getting involved