E85 Fuel System Build-Up

[s213b]

Been on the search all day looking into which pump/injectors/fpr (if any?!) would be best for my setup & budget, I've gotten some info, but still need more.

After 300awkw & e85 out of my rb25 (in r32 gts4)

Injectors- looking at ID1000's / a big injector suitable for e85?

Pump- walbro intank 400lph

Fpr- still stuck regarding sizes/turbosmart/SARD?

I know I'm after rising rate, but are there many benefits vs brands? & what's the difference between turbosmart frp800 & the fpr3000?

Are all fpr's suitable for ethanol?

Cheers

[34GeeTeeTee]

Check that things are E85 compatible...

My setup -

1000cc XSPURTS

HKS FUEL RAIL

BOSCH 044 intank

SARD REG - However this may change as its not E85 approved... So although it MAY be fine, its not approved like the others on the market are...

There are so many cars running that sort of power on E85 on here and a lot using diggerent combos.

If your on a budget there are plenty of options

[s213b]

Thanks for your reply,

Xspurts- I've never heard of them, any good? Good spray pattern etc? 100% E85 safe?

I almost bought 1000cc rc injectors, only to find out they have to be 'flushed every few tanks with normal fuel'... So no dice.

I didn't know 044's could be intank mounted? I still think I'll go walbro 400lph because it comes with a mounting kit for an r32 + only $170 inc shipping.

As for fuel rail I'm going to go eBay spec one that comes with my proboost ffp. Hope it's e85 safe.... Ha

[scotty nm35]

Xspurts are sold by Injectors online, they are Bosch ev14's.

http://www.injectorsonline.com/categories.php?cid=106

I have been running these for over a year now on e85 without a problem. Contact them about an SX reg too.

[slippylotion]

Make sure you get the correct walbro 400lph pump as there is two versions. 1 being E85 usable and the other isn't.

[Mick_o]

I'm running 336kw with my 25 Im running 850cc PE injectors an in tank tomei fuel pump and standard FPR my duty cycle is just over 80% shouldn't need an adjustable reg if your injectors and pump are up to the job.

[s213b]

Those injectors look alright, but I'm on the hunt for some 1000cc's @ $100 each or less. Found ID1000's come close @ about $109 each...

As for the fuel pump yeah I'll make sure it's e85 safe. What do I need to do with my fuel lines? E85 will eat my stock lines right? Do I need to go bigger diameter too?

So why do so many people have after market fpr's? Will it be easier for tuning with a fpr?

[slippylotion]

Where are you finding the ID1000's for $109? I'm after a set atm.

I think the guys running side feed from factory need an a/maker fpr if they are changing to top feed as you then obviously need to change to top feed fuel rail so the factory fpr won't fit. Plus you can then bump up the base pressure a tad to get that bit more from the injectors.

Edited May 31, 2012 by slippylotion

[34GeeTeeTee]

No, if you have new fuel line at the standard size it'll be OK.... Most new injectors are set for E85... Do a search for Simon-S14 for injectors

[sydking]

cant reccomend TUSPEED highly enough for ID 1000's

[Piggaz]

Those injectors look alright, but I'm on the hunt for some 1000cc's @ $100 each or less. Found ID1000's come close @ about $109 each...

As for the fuel pump yeah I'll make sure it's e85 safe. What do I need to do with my fuel lines? E85 will eat my stock lines right? Do I need to go bigger diameter too?

So why do so many people have after market fpr's? Will it be easier for tuning with a fpr?

I hope you're not going to not buy the ID's because they're $56 more than your budget.

E85 won't 'dissolve' your standard fuel lines. They're fine.

If your injectors are big enough (which they will be), leave the OEM FPR.

[34GeeTeeTee]

I hope you're not going to not buy the ID's because they're $56 more than your budget.

E85 won't 'dissolve' your standard fuel lines. They're fine.

If your injectors are big enough (which they will be), leave the OEM FPR.

Its only OLD fuel line that has this issue yeah? I re-run all the lines in new EFI hose so i hope it will be all good!!

And i spent more than the link above for the XSPURTS as i figured they are a crucial part to the build so why skimp on them

[Piggaz]

Are you talking about the rubber or steel lines?

If you're talking the steel hard lines then they are fine. Mine have not dissolved or 'turned into a pile of ash on the floor' like some people believe this stuff will do!

[scotty nm35]

Xspurts = ID's = Bosch ev14's.

[34GeeTeeTee]

Are you talking about the rubber or steel lines?

If you're talking the steel hard lines then they are fine. Mine have not dissolved or 'turned into a pile of ash on the floor' like some people believe this stuff will do!

Nah, i meant the rubber hose!

Xspurts = ID's = Bosch ev14's.

http://www.xspurtinjectors.com/

Start life as a Bosch and then get modified slightly?

[scotty nm35]

As far as I know they just machine the tip down a little to fit multiple installs. They are matched well from Bosch from what I have been told. At least they are local if you have issues...

[s213b]

Where are you finding the ID1000's for $109? I'm after a set atm.

eBay, sorry was $119 each.

[s213b]

I hope you're not going to not buy the ID's because they're $56 more than your budget.

My mistake, $119, not $109. So $720 a set.

I meant are there any other 1000's people are running e85 on that are decent & under $600 for a set. Just curious.

I've seen rc1000's for $550 but their not e85 safe

[34GeeTeeTee]

I remember reading about cheap injectors here -

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/297224-installing-seimens-deka-injectors-onto-a-neo-rb25-r34/

Dunno if there is a set to suit your application or not but there were pretty cheap compared to what i ended up with.... Couldnt be bothered reading or searching for you but try and see if it points you in the right direction?

[XRATED]

I'd go a deatschwerks fuel pump over a walbro... any day.

Don't use efi hose for e85- you need something teflon lined/rated for alcohol.

For the extra money, I still choose ID injectors over the standard bosch items.

J.