Coilovers help

[niZmO_Man]

Yeah Fortune is equiv to MCA imo

You can also get KYB/Koni/Bilstein + springs (probably easier to get it from Japan).

[SeanR32GtSt]

6 hours ago, niZmO_Man said:

Yeah Fortune is equiv to MCA imo

You can also get KYB/Koni/Bilstein + springs (probably easier to get it from Japan).

And apparently their factory is here in the states as well

[thebe]

I had my apexi N1 coils (99 spec) repaired last winter by ohlins specialist. Cant remember exactly what he did, but all the shocks had leaked and now they seem to do ok.

 

Ride is a bit hard for a road car though, iirc the springs were around 10/9kg or something like that. Shocks are now at mid stiffness (15 or 16 klicks, goes to 32). Been wondering if I could/should get a bit softer set of springs and which ones to get. Atleast rhdjapan seems to sell lots of generic springs that should fit

 

 

 

 

[SeanR32GtSt]

On 10/23/2018 at 10:54 PM, niZmO_Man said:

Yeah Fortune is equiv to MCA imo

You can also get KYB/Koni/Bilstein + springs (probably easier to get it from Japan).

Are these spring rates comfortable enough for in town or highway roads as well without breaking my tailbone on road imperfections. 

[niZmO_Man]

Contact the guy, tell them you want comfortable street suspension. If they can't help you, look elsewhere.

You don't want high spring rates unless they're valved really well, you want something a low lower like 6/4 or get standard/Nismo suspension.

Or just get BC coilovers

Link to Nismo S-Tune suspension: https://www.rhdjapan.com/nismo-s-tune-suspension-system-kit-r32.html

[SeanR32GtSt]

1 hour ago, niZmO_Man said:

Contact the guy, tell them you want comfortable street suspension. If they can't help you, look elsewhere.

You don't want high spring rates unless they're valved really well, you want something a low lower like 6/4 or get standard/Nismo suspension.

Or just get BC coilovers

Link to Nismo S-Tune suspension: https://www.rhdjapan.com/nismo-s-tune-suspension-system-kit-r32.html

This is what I got for bc racing coils. What do they mean by “extreme low”? The height in my car now is pretty damn low with what I believe are the apexi coils

[SeanR32GtSt]

As it currently sits. I measured 23 inches from fender to ground. 

[KiwiBoat]

I recently installed a set of 8/6kg BC Golds in my 33 and I'm happy with them. Good quality for the price, when set up right they handle really nicely as well as retain a decent level of ride quality, albeit pretty firm its not crashy. I daily drive 120km each day on bumpy secondary roads. MCA would have been nice but would have cost around 2x as much to get here in NZ.

[GTSBoy]

51 minutes ago, SeanR32GtSt said:

As it currently sits. I measured 23 inches from fender to ground. 

f**king inches!

Measure from the guard lip directly above the centre of the wheel down to the centre of the hub cap.  Wants to be about 345mm.  What you have looks to be too low (for good handling, and for clearing speed humps, drains, etc).

[SeanR32GtSt]

20 minutes ago, GTSBoy said:

f**king inches!

Measure from the guard lip directly above the centre of the wheel down to the centre of the hub cap.  Wants to be about 345mm.  What you have looks to be too low (for good handling, and for clearing speed humps, drains, etc).

Lol sorry mate. Here in the states we tend to be all “anti conformity “ with the rest of the world lol. But this current height does wel with our speed bumps. I don’t have to go sideways or nothing. Just go at it at no more than 10km. I’ll take another measuring pic when I get home tonight from school. 

[SeanR32GtSt]

34 minutes ago, KiwiBoat said:

I recently installed a set of 8/6kg BC Golds in my 33 and I'm happy with them. Good quality for the price, when set up right they handle really nicely as well as retain a decent level of ride quality, albeit pretty firm its not crashy. I daily drive 120km each day on bumpy secondary roads. MCA would have been nice but would have cost around 2x as much to get here in NZ.

How low does your car sit?

[KiwiBoat]

39 minutes ago, SeanR32GtSt said:

How low does your car sit?

As low as I could get it without the guards resting on the front wheels when you turn them. A little lower than in that pic as it has settled since then. I had to modify the front inner guards, tuck the wiring loom up higher, roll all 4 guards and fit extra bump stops to the rear to stop the wheels hitting the body under full bump. 

[SeanR32GtSt]

51 minutes ago, KiwiBoat said:

As low as I could get it without the guards resting on the front wheels when you turn them. A little lower than in that pic as it has settled since then. I had to modify the front inner guards, tuck the wiring loom up higher, roll all 4 guards and fit extra bump stops to the rear to stop the wheels hitting the body under full bump. 

That looks good. Sits about as low as mine. My BBS wheels are 17” so it gives the more low illusion I think. 

[KiwiBoat]

1 hour ago, SeanR32GtSt said:

That looks good. Sits about as low as mine. My BBS wheels are 17” so it gives the more low illusion I think. 

Nice, yours is looking good too. Yeah its easier to get the car lower to the ground on 17"s, Im running 235/40r18 so its quite a large tyre.

[SeanR32GtSt]

1 minute ago, KiwiBoat said:

Nice, yours is looking good too. Yeah its easier to get the car lower to the ground on 17"s, Im running 235/40r18 so its quite a large tyre.

I’ve contemplated running 16X9.5 in the rear and 16X8 in the front. 

[niZmO_Man]

yeah BC BR generic dampers and springs with car specific mounts. Get them and set the height, then set the dampers how you like.

[SeanR32GtSt]

24 minutes ago, niZmO_Man said:

yeah BC BR generic dampers and springs with car specific mounts. Get them and set the height, then set the dampers how you like.

With the new ones do I just match them up to my old ones before installing?

[SeanR32GtSt]

Today it’s a choice between either fortune or bc coilovers ?

[KiwiBoat]

Getting the heights is actually pretty fussy. When I got my BC's the body length was adjusted pretty close to right to allow the maximum amount of suspension travel without the tyre contacting body anywhere. So you should be able to just install them as is and they will be decent. But if you want to go lower that's when you have to make some careful adjustments, then drive the car to let the springs settle a little and adjust from there. Took me ages to get all 4 corners even and at the height I wanted. Then I had to add spacers on the rear shocks to limit the shock travel while still retaining captive springs.

[SeanR32GtSt]

15 hours ago, KiwiBoat said:

Getting the heights is actually pretty fussy. When I got my BC's the body length was adjusted pretty close to right to allow the maximum amount of suspension travel without the tyre contacting body anywhere. So you should be able to just install them as is and they will be decent. But if you want to go lower that's when you have to make some careful adjustments, then drive the car to let the springs settle a little and adjust from there. Took me ages to get all 4 corners even and at the height I wanted. Then I had to add spacers on the rear shocks to limit the shock travel while still retaining captive springs.

Sounds fussy. I got a mate that lives bout 10km from me with access to a lift. Our game plan is to match the current coils with the new ones. Set the dampers to middle point of soft and hard. Lower the car off the lift and check the height. Then drive for a minute to check tyre rub. If not equivalent to what the car ride height was before we will lower it some more and repeat the same process.