Upgrade an rb25neo

[Lithium]

31 minutes ago, joshuaho96 said:

The trouble for me is the automatic takes away so much from it. And the E92 has hydraulic power steering. Even after putting in an LSD you're looking at re-mapping the xDrive to be more like a Skyline which is just a lot of effort for something that is supposed to be easier and cheaper. I consider the E92 335i 6MT to basically be the obviously superior car to something like an R34 GTT. Half the price out here, the N54 makes so much more power so easily, is a far more refined car, etc. You do have to deal with the nightmare of the N54's foibles vs the B58 which is comparatively miles better and if a turbo does fail it's only one of them vs two and a lot less pipe spaghetti. 

Different folks for different folks I guess - for me, the 6MT > ZF8 claim is wild.  If I had a manual Skyline I'd be saving up fix that with a ZF8.  I went for a M135i, has the N55 which resolves a lot of the issues the N54 has, it already has the ZF8, is barely heavier than an R34 GTt, full boost before 2000rpm while also being real-word-faster than my old 280kw @ hubs R33 GTS25t and doing absolutely everything better.  There's nothing I'd change on it to be more like my old Skyline, tbh... it doesn't sound the same but it's got it's own awesome sound - definitely not worse.

 

16 hours ago, Kinkstaah said:

I mean, the 240i is not a Supra... make it drop a few hundred kg, have a sportscar chassis, clearance for wheels etc...

I do agree with you though and have long said the B58 Supra/240i/340i/440i is the new R Chassis/JDM90's turbo rocket for mod lovers to ... not always appreciative response lol.
 

To be fair I can't argue with most of those points.  I guess i was pointing it out as a comparison for a Skyline GTR and it's much closer all around there, like the weight difference between an M240i and an R34 GT-R isn't that much etc.   As above, I ended up getting an M135i which is in the 1400kg range - the M140 and M240is that you can get up till 2018 are B58, ZF8, RWD and in the 1400kg range which is a bit of fun... but doesn't fit the tyre etc of the Supra.  They are a run drive, though- maybe no an A90 Supra but a huge upgrade over a Skyline "sporty chassis" wise.

 

 

[joshuaho96]

12 minutes ago, Lithium said:

Different folks for different folks I guess - for me, the 6MT > ZF8 claim is wild.  If I had a manual Skyline I'd be saving up fix that with a ZF8.  I went for a M135i, has the N55 which resolves a lot of the issues the N54 has, it already has the ZF8, is barely heavier than an R34 GTt, full boost before 2000rpm while also being real-word-faster than my old 280kw @ hubs R33 GTS25t and doing absolutely everything better.  There's nothing I'd change on it to be more like my old Skyline, tbh... it doesn't sound the same but it's got it's own awesome sound - definitely not worse.

 

To be fair I can't argue with most of those points.  I guess i was pointing it out as a comparison for a Skyline GTR and it's much closer all around there, like the weight difference between an M240i and an R34 GT-R isn't that much etc.   As above, I ended up getting an M135i which is in the 1400kg range - the M140 and M240is that you can get up till 2018 are B58, ZF8, RWD and in the 1400kg range which is a bit of fun... but doesn't fit the tyre etc of the Supra.  They are a run drive, though- maybe no an A90 Supra but a huge upgrade over a Skyline "sporty chassis" wise.

 

 

ZF8 is faster, wider ratio spread, better in every way. I do not dispute this. But I have brain damage and I want the feeling of shifting gears. To me the extra work is fun, but I daily an automatic and in the US like 90+% of cars are automatic so a manual transmission is an "exotic" experience. If I want an automatic I've driven an F80 M3 with DCT more than a few times and it's incredibly capable but it's emotionally vacant to me.

[Lithium]

1 minute ago, joshuaho96 said:

But I have brain damage and I want the feeling of shifting gears. 

I used "different strokes for different folks" quite pointedly as honestly, there is no wrong when it comes to choosing what you like.  I always day dreamed about flappy paddles with fast shifts in a sporty RWD Turbo and to me the sound and feel of it cutting through gears in a steady stream is exciting, engaging, and keeps the car better balanced - I *also* like h-patterns, but I find them more engaging and fun in a nice hoonable peaky NA thing.  Type-R Integra/old school NA rotary, things that are raw and need all the rpm where picking the gear and getting it sky high is part of the engagement of the whole thing despite the fact that they probably need closer ratios and faster shifts even more than a 3l turbo thing haha

 

[MBS206]

All I'm hearing is sequential swap time.

Gives you a shifter, and crisp hard fast shifts.

You can even use flappy paddles with them.

You just can't give the shifter the side to side shake to make sure you're in neutral 

[GTSBoy]

14 minutes ago, MBS206 said:

All I'm hearing is sequential swap time.

Gives you a shifter, and crisp hard fast shifts.

Shut up you. All I'm hearing these days is "GTSBoy needs to put in a V8 with paddle shifted transmisision" and I don't like feeling pressured to spend money to make my car fun. I want to be able to grumble about how slow it is, largely because I haven't spent any money to make it fast!

[Predator1]

1 hour ago, MBS206 said:

All I'm hearing is sequential swap time.

Beat me to it  Big single, Seqy, #sorted

[MBS206]

6 hours ago, GTSBoy said:

Shut up you. All I'm hearing these days is "GTSBoy needs to put in a V8 with paddle shifted transmisision" and I don't like feeling pressured to spend money to make my car fun. I want to be able to grumble about how slow it is, largely because I haven't spent any money to make it fast!

I don't think you want to grumble about how slow it is... I think you just want to embrace the grumbly old man persona. 😛

 

PS, no matter how fast your car is, someone else will always have a faster car. 😛

 

And I'll leave you with this piece of advice...

V12 swap with air shifted Sequential... Do it! 😛

[GTSBoy]

10 minutes ago, MBS206 said:

V12 swap with air shifted Sequential... Do it! 😛

Oh, you know I want to. I've been wanting a Hartley 1GZ for long enough that it's causing me to rock in the corner like kid on far end of the spectrum.

I'll have to double down on the retirement strategy (which extends only to X lotto tickets at this point).

[MBS206]

8 minutes ago, GTSBoy said:

Oh, you know I want to. I've been wanting a Hartley 1GZ for long enough that it's causing me to rock in the corner like kid on far end of the spectrum.

I'll have to double down on the retirement strategy (which extends only to X lotto tickets at this point).

Easier way... Convince Mark that he needs to do it, wait 6 months, and buy it off him for 1/10th the price when he's bored of it... 😛

[GTSBoy]

1 hour ago, MBS206 said:

Easier way... Convince Mark that he needs to do it, wait 6 months, and buy it off him for 1/10th the price when he's bored of it... 😛

Big brain energy.