What would you classify a DR30 as

[Boof]

the DR30 was built as a race car base, same as the GTHO phase III was for ford.

The DR30 is an extended version of the 1600 chassis, so yes you might very well be right in that fact...

Doctor 30 if ur car is squriming and stuff be4 it brakes traction must be really soft!! Mine never gave me any warning at all (hence the crash) when it was gonna break loose!!

At one stage the DR30 was the quickest produtcion car so it must be classed as some kinda of muscle car, or is it just a performance car based on a family chasis car (ie WRX)??

[0HR-30T]

I'll go with performance car based on family car chassis.The M/H/D R30 Sedan would be the most common platform I guess,so the FJ20 powered cars are the same chassis,but with sports orrentation.

Does that even make sense? ehh,bugger this,I've already voted anyway!

[Doctor 30]

boof- WRX chassis was built to give it an advantage in the WRC over the production based cars (it worked last year). WRX hatch maybe designed as a family car, the sedan was built so that it could be homologated into a better rally car than its rivals. The STI (new one) even has a few trick items so that it can beat the evos on the track.

I think that is basically what the story was with the DR30, nissan wanted a car to go racing with and this was the best base tool to do it.

My car isn't soft but I can feel the tyres at the point they are going to give way, so the squirming is not in the suspension, it is in the tyres. Both my R30's have been great at doing controlled power slides. Current on is really low though, has 2" of travel in the suspension.

[NeoLokie]

I agree that i think its more of a grand tourer, its to big to be a sports car (to me a sports car is something thats light and chuckable)

Like???

I had a supra..in comparison the skyline is a go-kart! The supra is a "true" gt, and it weighed about 1600kg.

I'd say a 180sx is a sports car, and its only 100-ish kg lighter, and the power delivery is a lot less savage.

Maybe its Muscle Grand Sports Tourer?

[Adam_RSX]

MX5's are sports cars, RX7's are sports cars, S13's are crap.

It would want to be a bloody nice S13 for me to consider buying it, with a frigging tough CA18

[0HR-30T]

Come on! MX5's might have great chassis balance,etc but sports car? They're the original hair dreser's car, aren't they.Give me an S13 over one of them anyday! (even an SR20 one!)

[rsx84]

At one stage the DR30 was the quickest produtcion car so it must be classed as some kinda of muscle car, or is it just a performance car based on a family chasis car (ie WRX)??

the DR30 had more power and slightly less handling abilty than the top model porsche at the time. the family versions were the MR 4doors hence all the mod cons for the 1982 model, the HR and DR were always performance based cars from the lighter body to the adj front susp control, then with the dr and the FJ20det engine (either F1 engine at the time or soon to be F1 engine) the people at nissan must of had something in mind for the DR...sports car, GT car or just muscle car with out set guidelines for each name its always going to be one name for one and another name for another!

[Mulkers]

Its not a v8, muscle cars are all v8's, it fits the other criteria of sports car, those being light (ralatively, especial compared to gt's), not particularely forgiving and relatively small. MG's were called sports cars and they have the worst brakes of anything in existance don't they? I'm just assuming that bit,  'cause they're british.

and besides all that, what was the braking and tires of the day in 1982??

Six Pack Chargers? Cortina GTs? etc. There have been several muscle cars that are not 8 cylinder. Plus the A9X's produced for Le Man, were old school twin turboed! You can't tell me an A9X Torana is not a muscle car!

Also, Muscle cars are called such because of their muscle. They had/have large torque becuase of large displacement. Any one know that Chev made a factory 502 for the 67-69 Camaro. That is over 8 Litres!

[Adam_RSX]

Sports cars aren't so much about power, theyre about handling and chuckability

[0HR-30T]

...sports car, GT car or just muscle car with out set guidelines for each name its always going to be one name for one and another name for another!

Very true.The DR30 Skyline will always be a sports car to me.

[NeoLokie]

My wife and sister both reckon its a muscle car...just to chuck a spanner in the works and screw up all my theories.

and yeah there are many "muscle" cars that aren't v8's (that'll learn me for being funny), I just didn't think about them at the time...I tend to associate muscle cars with gt ho falcons, and forget about the rest cause I'm busy drooling...

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hm i dunno how i define muscle car but i dont think the DR would fit that bill for me, although, as far as jap cars go, it could sorta be up there coz arent other muscle cars also based on boring chassis and share bits with the boring versions? although id probably call the DR a sports car (hence my vote) since its effectively an up-specced sporty version of the normal skylines really. plus its a bit less soft edged to be a muscle car anyway with electrics

weight isnt as much as 'real' GT cars .. they only wiegh about 100kg more than s13s which are known to be pretty light and throwable...theyre a cheapo sports car i say but still sports car.

plus DR30's dont have GT badges they have RS badges! GT is grand tourer, dunno what RS stands for but ill assume some race sports or something along those lines ... nissan didnt designate it as a GT so its not one of them i wouldnt say !

[0HR-30T]

Hmmmm,yet HR30's had GT badges on them....

[Adam_RSX]

Yeah, and no power

[Doctor 30]

Here we go again................

Did the L20ET have a twin cam head or not? I didn't think so but that may change my opinion if they did.

[Boof]

Here we go again................

Did the L20ET have a twin cam head or not?  I didn't think so but that may change my opinion if they did.

Nope no twin cam head on the L20ET....

[rsx84]

Nope no twin cam head on the L20ET....

nissan did make an inline DOHC 6 cyl engine about the same time they released the HR30 81/82 , looked like an extended fj20, i'll try to find out some info on it!

[0HR-30T]

You're not thinking of the older S20 twin camers are you?

[V8skylineMAN]

there was also an extremely rare twin cam head for the L20 4 cyl engine...i cant remember if it was HKS or nismo that made it though

And SVO (ford motorsport division) make a stroker kit for the 460 cube big block V8.....as if 460 wasnt big enuff....it takes it out to 600 cubes!

[0HR-30T]

Wasn't it OS Giken that made the twin cam heads?