Bad Experiences

[Babylon]

Hey Guys

I was wondering are we allowed or is it legal to have a thread dedicated to bad experiences with panel beaters, Mechanics ,Alarm installers etc

I just think it would be a good idea to put the company name , location and a brief description of what happen with the company

So when someone is getting something done to their car they can check the thread to stay clear from companies people have PERSONALLY had a bad experience with

any feed would be good on this issue!!!!

[VL-TRBO-RB20]

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[Tosh]

no this is a bad idea.... no public defemation of any workshop on here please

[Babylon]

ive just had a bad experince with a pannel beater too i mean ive taken it back so many times and cant get it right

If there was a thread dedicated for these types of issues that would be great

i mean i could had some sort of warning

it is freedom of speech but the question is , is it legal to judge a company and let others know !!!!

[Babylon]

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[Tosh]

no it's public defamation and SAU (i.e. Christian himself) cen be help liable for it.....

[Babylon]

ok ok just asking

[Jae_s15]

Well in truth it would actually fall under the "fair comment" rule, making it legal... however, once everyone had gone through the expensive and lengthy process of proving that the only people who would win would be the lawyers.

Jae

[Duncan]

like tosh said forum rules are no naming dodgy places or experiences.

But there is no rule against posting everything about what happened without naming them....people can then PM you if they need to know the name

[ApleX]

but then how is the different from saying what fuel is better?? doesnt that fall in the same category ?

[oscar32]

i've seen a thread trashing a couple of shops over in canberra.

[Duncan]

yeah you guys are right, there is a grey area, but we are just trying to protect the forums. As things stand now there has not been a sucessful action taken against the forums and we would like to keep it that way.

Certainly if you are concerned about a thread please use the second button at the bottom of each post "Report" which sends an email to the appropriate mods.

[Goon]

i think when it comes to major companies like tyres, fuels etc, its a open to slagging pretty much, but when its private companies or small businesses, then a little restraint is needed

[ApleX]

i guess that small companys could kinda get shut down if there was bad stuff said bout them on here, but big companys dont really matter.

[Babylon]

Man its just so frustrating i mean i paid so much money to get my car fixed

At this smash repair and ive taken the car back 3 times still not fixed properly

i have to spend more money taking it somewhere else now,

and consumer affairs cant do anything about it only make the smash repairs fix it

how ever I just know for a fact they will do something to the car.

What I would love is to get my money back.

Really these companies have been doing this sort of stuff for years and getting away with it.

The biggest kick in the teeth was the smash repairer refusing to fix the car and also making threats.

I would love to go out in a blaze of glory with these people but really its just metal in the end of the day.

[GTR R35]

Babylon,

I am pretty sure under consumer law, you must give the panel beater the opportunity to make goo dht erepairs that you are not satisfied with. It sounds like you have done this 3x. Now there is one of 2 things happening here: Either you are too picky and cannot be satisfied or The job done is crap and they cannot get it right.

I would suggest that you get a 2nd and 3rd opinion on the work done, get it in writing from another panel beater. Armed with this info, go back to the origional place and ask them what they want to do about it. If they do not give you a satifactory response, pay to get it fixed by another place. Then you can sue the panel beater who messed up the work.

The Dpt. of Fair Trading should give you similar advice. You can also contact the Motor Trade Association (MTA) and make a formal complaint about the workshop.

Do not give up, if you paid you hard earned for a propper job and did not get it, do not just rollover and accept it. Kick some butt :kick:

[Tosh]

for the record we have no problem with members who post bad experiences on this forum.

BUT DO NOT NAME ANY NAMES AT ANY STAGE.

you are entitled to speak your mind so feel free to do so. Leave out names and if people wish to know who it was then invite them to send you a PM or email or whatever and you may name names in private.

hope that clears it up

[Jae_s15]

As I said before though, the problem isn't necessarily the legality of saying something defamatory as under Australia law you can make "fair comments" to the public (being us) about anybody or any company (I also point out that companies are even less protected than people) as long as you give a full summary for the reasons you have for reaching that conclusion and it is a fair comment to make on the facts presented.

HOWEVER, the fact remains that the costs involved with defending an action like that are astronomical and would more than likely be enough to severely damage this fine institution. That is why the amazingly charitable individuals that run these forums exercise the discretion not to allow us to run around (legally) defaming people through their publication.

So my suggestion is that out of the goodness of our hearts lets do what the wise men say... just my 2.2c as a law grad.

Oh, and as 4doorGTR said if you are unsure seek professional advice from a TPA lawyer or the Dept of Fair Trading... you never have to take anything lying down.

Cheers,

Jae

[leb]

Theres lots of people out there that rip you off for your car, the trick is to not go back. And spread the bad word to your mates so it travels through bush telegraph

[raz0r$harP.UK]

I remember a long time ago, that Overclockers Australia was the recipient of legal action due to comments someone made about a vendor. Caused the forums to go down for a long time as they pursued it through the system.. Read this for more info..

http://www.overclockers.com.au/defamation.shtml