Results of EC Drags 18/12/02

[BU5TER]

Hey everyone, think about this, how is Merli going to run a fast time if he doesn't work out his set up first. His car is an absolute weapon and i'm sure once he's worked out the strengths and weaknesses of his car on the strip there will be a few shocked people. Thats if he chooses to go down this track if not he knows what its capable of and at the end of the day thats all that matters.

Congrats on even going to the drags in the first place i've noticed there seems to be a lot of people on the forum that talk the talk but how many of them have been to the drags???

[Duncan]

Originally posted by VISHES

hehehe...Ed...i only race straight line!!! my car is shit around corners especially with these falken grb tyres!!! heheh

Falken GRBs? They're the secret of fatz's success, great track tyres.:burnout:

[franks]

buster i believe merli does realise what the weakest links are and is going about to rectify them.

just another point, entering in the off street drag night doesn't mean your all of a sudden king $hit...i have lots of respect for many ppl who choose not to goto the strip...for me its just a hell-uva-lot of fun!!!

[Roy]

Flicking thru the latest High Performance Imports last night, and on the final page i saw a top 10 1/4 mile times list. Even with a 13.1 youre easily make the list. Secondly with your terminal speed, i think it was the 2nd highest. (RWD over 2.4L)

OK so many owners may not read HPI or be bothered sending in their times... but for me i would rather a banshee of a car (Merli's) that from what ive seen at the track pulls hard in 2nd, 3rd, 4th blah, blah, blah all the way into top gear. How often does first gear traction count for anything other then qtr mile, and please dont say on the street.

In European mags and vids they have standing mile match races, lots of the cars that win these are loosing by half way, but win by up to 2 seconds, i am always more impressed by top end then low speed traction masking lower hp.

My preference would be for good E.Ts, and scary top end. How many car owners can say their car pulls 13.1s, that can match MOST cars 0-100km/h and embarrass majority 100-250km/h.

That said ill now crawl back under my rock, need to think of ways to break 2min barrier around Eastern Creek (circuit not 1/4 mile), perhaps a new driver.

[400HP]

Roy I don't quite understand what you're saying... on one hand you say..

How often does first gear traction count for anything other then qtr mile, and please dont say on the street.......i am always more impressed by top end then low speed traction masking lower hp

which implies you're not interested in 1st gear or launching technique. but on the other hand you say:

My preference would be for good E.Ts, and scary top end. How many car owners can say their car pulls 13.1s

Which implies your preference is for good ET's.

From my limited knowledge of the quartermile runs I'd have to say the that quarter mile encompasses not only a good launch but also strong throughout all gears and good top end.

Anyway my point is that in order to get a good ET you need a damn good laucnh and a damn good first gear as well.

[Roy]

Yeh thats fair enough, what i was getting at is there are those that wouldnt consider 13.1s that quick, i do, but not others. Also i suspect that 13.1 isnt indicative of the performance of the car.

What i was TRYING to say was i'd take 13.1s (my definition of good, but not brilliant) knowing the car has a lot more in it with traction etc.

As opposed to say a WRX with road/race rubber, exhaust and boost that could run similar times, but not have the same high speed acceleration due to a power deficit.

With strong top end you can still make good ET, even if traction is an issue.

And dont say "not interested in 1st gear or launching technique" , I AM. Technique Yes, an engineering solution that compromises the street driveability or circuit ability of the car, NO.

I'd RATHER good firm road/track suspension, then 90/10 suspension set up for power down for 1/4 mile.

Many of our cars are compromises and its up to the owners to decide which compromise they are to make, be it all out drag car, pure street car, track car or a combination of.

Is any of this making any sense???

[400HP]

yeh nah makes sense.... just misinterpreted your first post.

I wasn't having a go at you... I was just trying to make sense of what u were saying.

[Roy]

I was just trying to make sense of what u were saying.

My friends gave up a long time ago. Goes to show how patient and understanding fellow Skyline owners can be.

[gtr jason]

thats a good time 4 a gtst but your best thing to do is sell it and get a gtr mine runs 11.4 at 124mph with my street tyres

[ultim8DTM5]

Originally posted by gtr jason

thats a good time 4 a gtst but your best thing to do is sell it and get a gtr mine runs 11.4 at 124mph with my street tyres

perhaps one of John Deere's finest then, Bum Bandit?

:lol:

jk

[400HP]

Jason - does your car run an 11.4?? wow! whats hardwares it running?

[gtr jason]

25/35 turbos ,cams and cam gears power fc pro hks dump pipes and i have run dr gtrs car, it to goes good the wine was great

[meggala]

andrew do some work on the rear end pineapple or urethane sub frame buses helped me get better traction then the stock shocks and yeah 16 or even 17's there are alot of cars in japn that run 275 45 17" nitto's .

take your time and plan it Ihave seen similar set up cars to you well into the the 12's on street tyres. now you know why I wa so wrapped with my improvemnt in time with just minor tweaking.

thats where the rewards are you car is plent power ful for now get it to its full potoential in it current trim b4 you go further

be happy it was only a drive shaft and yes slicks will give you gearbox big head aches

meggala

at least you wont whimp out and go auto on us

[Morgs]

Big HP + auto = times

Big HP + manual rarely = results

Who cares. Drag racing really, at the end of the day dosent mean a whole lot... its just an ET, the MPH tells the story, as Ive read above. Don't go chasing the ET Andrew, as you'll only spend too much time and money as opposed to result.

[400HP]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean by the difference between ET and result here... the desired result of any quarter mile drag should be a low time. This is the ET.

[meggala]

400 hp the mph give you a very good indication of the cars power in the perfect world with great traction ie good 60' time any car can run a great time. for me the best indication is the fastest time on street tyres cause thats how you drive the thing 99% of the time.

cheers

[400HP]

Oh I see.... but I guess since people can't always do the perfect launches all the time then the result for me would be the ET. Thats just the way I interpret it.

[Merli]

Originally posted by meggala

for me the best indication is the fastest time on street tyres cause thats how you drive the thing 99% of the time.

Drive it yes, race it no...

People who know me, know I hardly ever open up the throttle on public roads... Mainly because if I do, and a Police Officer hears my wastegate dump, it's all over... I'm going to get pulled over and the bonnet opened, which is the *LAST* thing I need to happen.

So on the roads, I normally putt around at the speed limit, trying to draw as little attention to myself as possible... Driving a modified Skyline attracts enough attention as it is, without me opening my very VERY unsociable wastegate everywhere...

So basically 95% of the time I drive my car in anger, is on the race track... The car is setup for trackwork, not drag racing, and that's how I like it... I'd say trackwork 90%, drags 10% would be my priority... But that doesn't mean I'm going to neglect that 10%... I still want to cut good times down the 1/4 mile for myself, not for anyone else.

[nissaner]

Originally posted by Merli

I still want to cut good times down the 1/4 mile for myself, not for anyone else.

thats the spirit u champion.... i sooooo want to get my 1/4 times too... i will have to go get the times for myself coz i don't wanna be a "my car can run blah blah times" dickhead without even running my car... ^^ andrew, lets go to the strip together when i get back to the beautiful oz land~!~!

i will be happy with anything better than 13 flat...

[GTR-80Y]

Yeah, then u can put ure 1/4 mile time and list of mods in ure signature and be a real tosser!:lol: :lol:

kekeke