Interesting tune yesterday @ ICE performance

[nitemare5]

My friend who bought my r33 gts-t took the car in for a tune yesterday @ ICE performance (had S-AFC 2, but I never got it tuned due to loss of licence) and got 185rwkw on stock boost!, they jacked the boost upto 0.75bar and got 205rwkw. AFR's seems good sitting on 12 or there abouts. Nigel thinks the stock turbo has been modified/hiflowed because the thing is pulling awesome power for what should be a 'stock turbo'. He recommended to get the turbo checked out to see what has been done it. A very pleasant surprise! I'll get my friend to post up the dyno graph. Current mods on the car are FMIC, 3" exhaust with hiflow cat (still stock dump), pod with CAI and a EVC 4. I think it's excellent power for the what the current mods are.

[TracidTrax]

ye that is pretty good, u sure its still a stock turbo? couldnt u get Nigel to check it out, his a top guy

[inark]

lol damn! gotta be happy with that find

[pmgrz2]

I'd be a hell of alot happier if i knew what was actually done to it

Ill post dyno sheets later tonight when i can get hold of a camera/scanner.

Out of interest, what figures have other people gotten on the ice dyno with a 'stock' turbo and what boost?

[Zahos]

FMIC

90mm super dragger (cat back) + 3"dump + front into 3" hi flow cat

9psi

SAFC2 - flat 12:1 A/F ratio

everything else stock as a rock

200rwkw

personally i think this figure is a little high.

190rwkw seems more realistic to me....

[silva33]

exhaust, front mount 12psi PFC, panel filter.. cant remember exactly but it was about 187rwkw... R33 GTST

[paulr33]

3" exhaust

stock dump

fmic

powerfc

[email protected]

172rwkw i was told this was normal power

maybe its time to sell the powerfc and go back to stock ecu and safc

[paulr33]

hang on that sounds a little odd. you said stock dump. if it was a modified turbo or what not then wouldn't it just choke more on the stock dump and make the graph a bit wonky in the top end when on full song. more air flow and the stocker dump sounds to me like it would choke more (in theory i guess?)

[justin911]

mine made 195kw on ice dyno with stock boost (7-8psi), safc2/fmic/3" exhaust.

[paulr33]

wanna swap?

[Ronin 09]

shootout mode?

[Bunta]

Does this mean the ICE dyno reads a bit high or are they really good a tuning?

[Zahos]

Nigel is pretty good if he can be bothered spending the time to do it properly.

When I had mine tuned, he stopped at a certain point, but I still wasn't happy with my A/F ratios. I asked him to keep going until it was flat.

but yes it does read high.

Before my tune, I saw about 168rwkw, and 200 after.

i think 160 and 190rwkw are more realistic in my case.

[nitemare5]

No it wasn't done in shootout mode unfortunately, it would've been great if my friend (pmgrz2) got a shootout mode. The power curve after 4.5k rpm shoots straight up. Nigel reckons things could get interesting if a powerfc + injectors was added into the equation.. and not to mention 1-1.1 bar of boost (possible 230-240rwkw) Also the AFM is ****ed atm too so i'll get my friend to pop in a Z32 AFM while he's at it; nigel had to adjust the tune abit because of the stuffed AFM. But we'll wait and see when we get the turbo inspected when my mate finally has cash again. Damn now i really regret selling the car.

Paulr33: Yes still stock dump; and while my friend questioned about getting it changed nigel said it's probably not worth the money you spend with the gains you'll get. The top end is choking a little with it, as you can see the power curve drop off (when pmgrz2 posts the dyno); even when nigel leaned it out a little, so he then richened the top end abit again to make it safer. The AFR generally sits around 12. The midrange though is pretty good from my pov.

Also what's your opinions on the exhaust cam gear; I'm a firm believer of them as i've seen alot of awesome results with them on s1 gts-t's. the midrange gain is pretty good; even upto 20rwkw i've seen in some cases (in the midrange, not the end power figure). I reckon the car would drive alot happier on the street, but most tuners that my friend has taken the car too has recommended against due to not gaining much.

I'd also like to thank ICE performance on behalf of my friend for great service and tune. Absolutely top stuff and they'll definately be getting more business from my friend. Just out of curiosity, does ICE have a 4wd dyno?

[paulr33]

yeah its a 4wd dyno. did he recommend change to a bigger dump pipe or split one?

i was disappointed at my tune and they didnt have much to say and sorta just said yeah its ok

oh well. ive got some crap to sort out (clutch + 3" split dump) and then im gonna try some of my own stuff and see what power i can get.

[nitemare5]

Awesome, I've just purchased a MY03 WRX so they'll be able to work on the car.

My friend only enquired about a larger dump if i recall correctly, but from point of view i'd like to extract as much out of the current turbo as possible, so I'd put on a split dump (if i was my friend) and some exhaust cam gears for some more midrange oomph.

[paulr33]

they told me cam gears do jack all and that dump change wont make much of a difference on the boost im running (0.80bar). im getting my split dump fitted on monday we'll find out hey. they said my power is down cos the boost im running

[paulr33]

:evil:

[silva33]

i dont think theit dyno is 4WD from memory, you might want to call and check..

[R31Nismoid]

ICE - RWD dyno only, it aint a 4wd one

CAM Gear on a 25... im not using one

RB26 there is a good gain however.

Nige and G, great blokes