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^^^^ my point exactly- these racer teams have given F1 a very rich ,colourful and interesting history and the sport will be the poorer for losing all of them (if it gets to that stage)

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If it does go to Merc F1 then its just another 'privateer' name going

Remeber Benetton, Minardi, Arrows,BAR,Brabham,BRM, Cooper,Jordan,Ligier,March,Matra,Prost,Sauber,Stewart,Tyrell?????

Also Shadow, Wolf, Penske (I think they had an F1) Jaguar, Lotus and Alfa Romeo. Benetton was actually something else before it became Benetton. As were some of the others. I am sure there were others that have dropped out as well just in my time of watching F1.

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Muz

Also Shadow, Wolf, Penske (I think they had an F1) Jaguar, Lotus and Alfa Romeo. Benetton was actually something else before it became Benetton. As were some of the others. I am sure there were others that have dropped out as well just in my time of watching F1.

Cheers

Muz

Benneton was Toleman before, there's also Simtek Mastercard Lola, Forti, Brabham, Hesken (iirc), Dome, Gurney, etc. etc.

Simtek & Lola were two separate teams.

Simtek's driving force was Nick Wirth (Now allegedly designing Le Mans cars for Honda) & they breifly spluttered into life in the early 90's before going profoundly broke.

Eric Broadley was the owner of the famous Lola name, but their F1 drive (The last of several) was an even more abject failure. The arrangements they had in place with Mastercard failed to generate any real revenue & the cars themselves were hopeless. The disappeared after only one or two races.

Hesken was actually Heskett, as in son of rajab. Cars wre occassionally good, but the parties have been recorded as being epic.

Also Shadow, Wolf, Penske (I think they had an F1) Jaguar, Lotus and Alfa Romeo. Benetton was actually something else before it became Benetton. As were some of the others. I am sure there were others that have dropped out as well just in my time of watching F1.

Cheers

Muz

I puposely left out Jag, Alfa, Lotus becaus of their factory links- just listed some of the 'privateer' teams

Simtek & Lola were two separate teams.

Simtek's driving force was Nick Wirth (Now allegedly designing Le Mans cars for Honda) & they breifly spluttered into life in the early 90's before going profoundly broke.

Eric Broadley was the owner of the famous Lola name, but their F1 drive (The last of several) was an even more abject failure. The arrangements they had in place with Mastercard failed to generate any real revenue & the cars themselves were hopeless. The disappeared after only one or two races.

Hesken was actually Heskett, as in son of rajab. Cars wre occassionally good, but the parties have been recorded as being epic.

I missed a , there, it should have been Simtek, Mastercard Lola. :)

MC Lola didn't even last a race, with the cars being withdrawn prior to qualifing at the AGP due to a lack of funds to pay for the engines.

I couldn't remember if it was Hesken or Heskett, thanks for that.

Grand Prix of the sphincter of the universe - 27 August 2006 - Qualifying

1 F. Massa Ferrari 1:26.907

2 M. Schumacher Ferrari 1:27.284

3 F. Alonso Renault 1:27.321

4 G. Fisichella Renault 1:27.564

5 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:27.569

6 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:27.785

7 J. Button Honda 1:27.790

8 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:27.866

9 R. Kubica BMW 1:28.167

10 M. Webber Williams 1:29.436

11 C. Klien Red Bull 1:27.852

12 P. de la Rosa McLaren 1:27.897

13 J. Trulli Toyota 1:27.973

14 R. Barrichello Honda 1:28.257

15 N. Rosberg Williams 1:28.386

16 C. Albers Midland F1 1:28.639

17 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:29.136

18 S. Speed Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:29.158

19 V. Liuzzi Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:29.250

20 T. Monteiro Midland F1 1:29.901

21 S. Yamamoto Super Aguri 1:30.607

22 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:30.850

not the mose interesting qualifying i've ever watched but it should still be a top race... Webber made it into the top ten, but i get the impression that he's light... Ralf is being penalised for an engine change, so everyone moves up a spot

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