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I'm agreeing with all the Ferrari bashers.

One of THEIR EMPLOYEES started all this.

From what I can gather, Coglin and Stepney were trying to use the info to get both of them into another team (Rumour has it that it was a Honda team, but I can't recall the details), and we have no real evidence of any of the Ferrari design in the McLarens.

A $100m fine is too much for what is commonplace in F1, let alone being stripped of all points.

Waaaaaay too much politics going on there.

Alonso will tear Ferrari apart if he goes there. Kimi will probably belt him.

But in the end, I can't see how Ferrari have cause for complaint when the whole fiasco originated form someone in their employ.

All it's really done is ruin the season. The punishment did not fit the crime. Dock them a few points, fine them, but to have them zeroed, with no chance to add points until next season just makes the sport worse off.

Kind of like the time they had 8 cars in the US GP. Good for FIA ego trips, bad for F1.

wellll...weve never been there before with modern F1 cars so i predict it will be unpredictable.

im looking forward to my surrogate "home" GP...shame i cant go this year...have to wait a while before i can get up close and personal with the peeps again.

I like fuji, it's a pretty cool track. not sure how well suited it is to F1 though. the facilites there are awesome. and adam you should be ashamed of yourself! not going to your home GP, especially at a facility as cool as Fuji, and close to you too. :thumbsup:

I hope alonso does leave maclaren and ron goes mental and hires webber as no2 driver to his main man hamilton.

I hope alonso does leave maclaren and ron goes mental and hires webber as no2 driver to his main man hamilton.

lol. webber would just make the mclearens break all the time. as for ferrari the should sack massa and hire rosberg, kubica, or bordias (or however you spell it). cool that they are racing at fuji this year, i forgot about that, but was looking foward to suzuka. oh well

Well the track is rubbish according to everything I have read. Thanks Toyota.

Fk it with all the bullshit that has been going on in F1 lately I think my time would be better spent sorting the sock draw.

speculation..gotta love it eh djr?

have you ever seen the track? driven it?

no? please do so and then cast an opinion. Until then you can only speculate, just like i can regarding my next sexual bout with my wife...

...its a wonderful track, well equipped but yes, very BLAND..it does NOT have character like suzuka..(YAY! were going back there after next year!..) but anyway suzuka oozes character and charm, a carnival atmosphere but its a shame the safety facilities arent up to FIA safety standards other wise..well, toyota couldnt think theyd have it their own way now could they...( they wont anyway ).

man im SOOOO pissed i cant go this year..

not even mr japan himself, poida, would understand... im crying into my food...

oh..., almost forgot, GO LH!!! :):(:D:) :) :worship: :sorcerer: :sorcerer: :sorcerer:

I like fuji, it's a pretty cool track. not sure how well suited it is to F1 though. the facilites there are awesome. and adam you should be ashamed of yourself! not going to your home GP, especially at a facility as cool as Fuji, and close to you too. :(

I hope alonso does leave maclaren and ron goes mental and hires webber as no2 driver to his main man hamilton.

richard, im sorry mate..i know. i ...mate i dont know what to say. I was there recently, had a drive around the place and yes, its a well planned and massive facility...real shame about the character though..it lacks the sparkle of suzuka..Richo, if youd seen it there, the last year, 2006, and all the fans during those days, youd think you were in motor sport nirvana...i cant quite put it into words but you get the point. :D

i really want to go. i just cant... and its not the money..i got my months salary today!..other reasons mate, other reasons.. :)

heck theres always next year and i can always watch the race live on my LCD bravia!! :)

Vote 1 Webber for McLaren. He'll beat Lewis.

How do I know? Simple:

1) Hamilton is English.

2) Webber is Australian.

3) Formula 1 racing is a sport.

4) Australia whoops England at every sport they play.

Therefore, if Lewis is leading this season, he is the best driver. If Webber is Australian, therefore better than Hamilton, then he will become the best driver.

Logical, right?

....anyone have Ron's email?

Oh, but if he does go to McLaren, then, being Australian, we have to claim the whole team as ours. Kind of like Phar Lap and Russel Crowe. Ron Dennis becomes "Denno" Lewis Hamilton becomes "Hammo" and De La Rossa becomes "Bullet head". Just because.

The new car also gets a makeover, with the new McLaren sporting a decal of "Fuzzy dice" near the rear view mirrors, and also "SANDMAN" on the rear wing.

Yes, I'm that bored.

speculation..gotta love it eh djr?

have you ever seen the track? driven it?

no? please do so and then cast an opinion. Until then you can only speculate, just like i can regarding my next sexual bout with my wife...

...its a wonderful track, well equipped but yes, very BLAND..it does NOT have character like suzuka..(YAY! were going back there after next year!..) but anyway suzuka oozes character and charm, a carnival atmosphere but its a shame the safety facilities arent up to FIA safety standards other wise..well, toyota couldnt think theyd have it their own way now could they...( they wont anyway ).

man im SOOOO pissed i cant go this year..

not even mr japan himself, poida, would understand... im crying into my food...

oh..., almost forgot, GO LH!!! :P:ermm::w00t::P :P :sorcerer: :sorcerer: :sorcerer:

To be fair it was more so conjecture than speculation. :D

but my point is that the organisers/Bernie bang on about how wonderful the pit facilities are & the spectator access or whatever. If you are sitting on your arse infront of the tellie on the other side of the world about all you tend to care about is how good the track is & does it promote good racing. No 130R at Mt Fuji....

Perhaps the location will give cause for people to remember the late James Hunt.

Anyway, to mark the occassion if Schumacher makes it past the first session in qualifying I will think about buying a Camry or something. :D There, I have said something positive about Toyota. Well done me.

Edited by djr81

you have it ALL wrong. Buttons not shit just the cars he drives are...

Thats like saying rubens is shit...same story but heck they must be having the shock of their lives this season.

Actually, who isnt , this season??

Edited by m3gtr
Rubens is a shit driver

Well "shit" may be too bold a call… he’s clearly nowhere near the top

not in this years honda he isnt. And he probably never will be again...

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