robots Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 (edited) Hi! I wanted to ask some questions about the setup I want to buy. 1.Innovative LM1 or LC1 2.EMU 3.GTR harness ? Or plug and play ? 4.A/F harness or pressure sensor for Innovative ? I got hcr32 rb20det wired in my x-carby a31 car. I want to be able to do road tuning on my own. So I want a wideband to work with EMU and emu to act as a datalogger as well. So when I do some road tuning I get all the needed parameters datalogged by EMU and then make adjustments to the maps. Can it be done ? Thanks! Edited November 3, 2007 by robots Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3452787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCD15R33 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 yes that what u need. The innovative 02 is what im running in my seris 1.5 skyline. The gtr harness will have to be modified to make it a gtst harness the wires that need to be cut are on the first pages of this thread. can get both the presure sensor and the a/f harness so u get correct boost pressure and the a/f with be on the emange data logger screen. And it can be done road tunning just make sure you have enough points on ur licences to do it lol :-) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3452808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb-gtst Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 hi guys just wondering if theres any news on the E01 working with the ultimate ?? thanks bruce. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3453481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECURITY Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 (edited) ive heard conflicting opinions on the innovative wideband's. something about them needing recalibration every day, and that the plx wideband's were the way to go. they even come with a little gauge. the e-01 doesnt work with the ultimate. according to URAS, greddy are releasing something similar for the e-01 sometime into the future for the ultimate. Edited November 3, 2007 by SECURITY Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3453493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jansson Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 What do I need use the ultimate as a bost controller on my r34 gtt? Ore is it gooder to use a boost controller brofec b ore simular? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3454893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECURITY Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 you cant use the ultimate as a boost controller. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3454905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 hi guysjust wondering if theres any news on the E01 working with the ultimate ?? thanks bruce. wont work never will Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3455604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 ive heard conflicting opinions on the innovative wideband's. something about them needing recalibration every day, and that the plx wideband's were the way to go. they even come with a little gauge.the e-01 doesnt work with the ultimate. according to URAS, greddy are releasing something similar for the e-01 sometime into the future for the ultimate. had no issues with my LM-1 from innovate. had it for 3-4 years..... sensors last pretty well, about the same as any other and are available anywhere ($90-120) as the are just a bosch.... PLX and Innovate use the same sensor part number 0258007057 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3455611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheezy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Heya Torentski, I don't have an ingriss manual on me only the jap one therefore I have a silly question Can I run low impediance GTR injectors on my R32 RB20DET engine with the ultimate "without" the use of a resistor pack? I was thinking (dangerous I know) of selling my denso 550cc high impediance ones and getting some Blitz GTR injectors and it would be handy not to have to wire in the resistor pack. cheers -Jez Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3455746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 Heya Torentski,I don't have an ingriss manual on me only the jap one therefore I have a silly question Can I run low impediance GTR injectors on my R32 RB20DET engine with the ultimate "without" the use of a resistor pack? I was thinking (dangerous I know) of selling my denso 550cc high impediance ones and getting some Blitz GTR injectors and it would be handy not to have to wire in the resistor pack. cheers -Jez Nah you need to stick with the factory impedance, or wire in the resistor pack easy if you have a plug and play loom Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3455758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheezy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 HRMMMM, I might have to make a loom. Cheers. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3455780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 ya jerk i had an ultimate one up until a fortnight ago... you coulda had it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3455822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheezy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Ah dang......just my luck Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3455905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegs Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 With some feedback from http://www.emanageforums.com/ I found the source of my ignition timing problem (ie EMU reading constant 111.0deg in data logging). The problem is the cam and crank signal wires in the Install Manual and the plug and play loom are the wrong way around. Apparently there is an updated install manual which makes note of this but i'm yet to find it. Unfortunately for me it didn't fix my car idling/running rough but it's progress With this change I repeated troubleshooting including changing RPM Signal and reinstalling EMU software/firmware but no change. I have the injector adapator for 6 cylinders on it's way so will see if this helps. Wegs Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3461620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegs Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Have a copy of the EMU page which illustrates the swapping of cam/crank bewteen BNR32-BCNR33 and BNR34. Will look to post it up somewhere if there is interest. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3462088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 With some feedback from http://www.emanageforums.com/ I found the source of my ignition timing problem (ie EMU reading constant 111.0deg in data logging). The problem is the cam and crank signal wires in the Install Manual and the plug and play loom are the wrong way around. Apparently there is an updated install manual which makes note of this but i'm yet to find it.Unfortunately for me it didn't fix my car idling/running rough but it's progress With this change I repeated troubleshooting including changing RPM Signal and reinstalling EMU software/firmware but no change. I have the injector adapator for 6 cylinders on it's way so will see if this helps. Wegs sorry i thought i posted this up somewhere?? bugger as the JDM plug and play looms for series two S14 do the same thing unless swapped around to the differrent (aus spec) wiring.... much like s15 PFC pin swap. as far as running rough have you taken the lag time out of the inj settings yet? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3462134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haines Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Trent How much lag should we be taking out just go .1ms at a time till it stops idling rich ??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3462259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Trent How much lag should we be taking out just go .1ms at a time till it stops idling rich ??? delete lag times in the before and after, so it shows nothing. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3462273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegs Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I'll strip the injector lag times out tonight and see how it goes... that's one thing I forgot to repeat since swapping the wires. thanks Trent. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3462967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
courier33 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 I have noticed that the input and output voltages for the afm are different. The emanage outputs slightly more voltage than is coming in.... At idle there is about 0.03 to 0.08 more volts. I think if the voltage is different, and im running standard injectors and afm, that its going to cause problems with the standard ecu trying to compensate fuel and timing? Should the afm map be adjusted in its entirety to reduce the voltage back until the input and output match at idle? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/161460-e-manage-ultimate-emu-56k-beware-screen-shots/page/18/#findComment-3463604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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