Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Now, now. No need to be like that :D

There are some guys down here grabbing 2nd hand Jap shocks and playing with them...im impressed by the results they are getting. They are nice on the steet and their lap times are damn quick.

I just checked the alignment sheet and they are reading +2mm toe, before the alignment it was +6. So does that mean toe in or toe out?

The problem is this would be easy if i had a GTR, but there arent any quick R32 GTSts getting around...so i have to put my foldign stuff on the line and learn the expensive way :down: The price of shocks is ridiculous :D

  • Replies 111
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Just as a note on the shocks, and I know a few will disagree with me here, but maybe have a look into some Tein RS's second hand, then have them rebuilt (no longer in production, I don't think). I might look into this myself, as after driving Jack's car home from PI I was amazed at how compliant they were on the street, yet are obviously doing a good job on the track. I know they were modified by Racepace, so it's not just an off the shelf kit, but they were really impressive.

Sorry to go off topic, but thought it may be of interest.

Thats exactly whaty im thinking...only i have just installed the diff and no longer want to use a GTR cradle and the GTR shocks are a lot easier to come by then GTSt. Quantam are looking a possibility as well. Need to speak to Ben and weigh up the option against Bilsteins.

How nice is Jacks car on the street. Its nicer then my car with soft springs and Bilsteins !

It's so compliant, it's awesome!

Big bumps rattle it a bit, but with the springrates you'd expect it, but over the normal smaller stuff it just soaks them up. Amazing stuff! I was shocked...

It sux having an R32 GTSt. All the good gear is available for GTRs and S13/14/15s etc...but if you have an R32 GTSt there isnt really anythiong track ready for them. Even Whiteline with their Groupl 4s are too busy doing things for EVO, and Silvias etc :pirate:

It sux having an R32 GTSt. All the good gear is available for GTRs and S13/14/15s etc...but if you have an R32 GTSt there isnt really anythiong track ready for them. Even Whiteline with their Groupl 4s are too busy doing things for EVO, and Silvias etc :D

Don't feel under privileged, Whiteline aren't doing any Group 4, any more.

:) cheers :P

It sux having an R32 GTSt. All the good gear is available for GTRs and S13/14/15s etc...but if you have an R32 GTSt there isnt really anythiong track ready for them. Even Whiteline with their Groupl 4s are too busy doing things for EVO, and Silvias etc :)

S14/15 is the easiest, next to GT-R's. Pity the suspension components aren't compatible with an S13 :(

Roy, maybe you should see this as a sign? mmm GTR goodness.

LOL...nope. There were a few GTRs behid me and a few that i can catch in front of me. LOL there are of course those i will never get near...but i struggle to afford to track my GTSt...a GTR is simply out of the question :)

Plus i dont enjoy blow by and spun bottom end bearings :(

Really? Thats a shame. A friend ran them in his STI and it was a very quick car.

So, fingers crossed i dont fall off my chair when i get pricing back on some new coil overs....SK, have you done any Bilsteins for track R32 GTSt?

Yep, mine for a start, it had Bilsteins in for 4 years.

:) cheers :D

Im going to get a bit more toe in the rear once someone is able to tell me if toe in is + or - :) Have a good look under there while its up on a hoist.

Then after Sandown on Anzac day i will pull it all out and strip them. Will be interesting to see how good the condition of 90,000km old Bilsteins that have seen over 3 Bathursts worth of track work are fairing. They are not completely shagged as the car still drives fine and stops in a staight line (not pulling to one side) So i dont think anything is majorly wrong with them...just a little worn and PI shows up any fault of the suspension. Who knows they could be fine and something else is astray in the suspension. I know they were out 20,000kms and 3 years ago and they were in perfect health. :D

Just as a note on the shocks, and I know a few will disagree with me here, but maybe have a look into some Tein RS's second hand, then have them rebuilt (no longer in production, I don't think). I might look into this myself, as after driving Jack's car home from PI I was amazed at how compliant they were on the street, yet are obviously doing a good job on the track. I know they were modified by Racepace, so it's not just an off the shelf kit, but they were really impressive.

Sorry to go off topic, but thought it may be of interest.

Cheers for the compliments Dane!!! I hope you enjoyed the drive... I wouldn't trust too many 180sx owners driving my car!!!! :)

Sydneykid, how would you compare your Bilstein kit to Tein RA/RS's??

From my experience, the Positive is actually toe out.

But to be perfectly serious with you. Set it to zero.

Too much toe in can also cause squirming. I had a MAJOR issue, where the car was crabbing around, unsettled underbrakes, hit a bump and it would wander around, and it was ALL in the rear toe, strangely, too much rear toe. The rear tyres were basically "dragged" around.

Most of the time, you'll find what you're feeling the "front" is actually from the rear.

lol, yeah salad and I had this problem before. it seems most places he has used accept + as toe in. the last place I used was definately + as toe out (and I can't remember back further than that!).

i don't know what i'm talking about half the time, but now running 0 rear toe and 1.8mm toe out each side on the front the car feels magic. and yes I know my weak GTR sus tuning experience can't be directly applied to troys bucket of bolts GTST.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • I am getting the same issue. Did you resolve it? I just got it after installing my new super coppermix and literally the same issue, new fork, new 18mm carrier, release bearing that came with the kit and replicated the exact same sound. 
    • If you like - I have the STL files so I can email em. There's a couple of gotchas (i.e the holes are not threaded so you might need/will need) to utilize some M3 melt-in threads for some of the points. However if you want to be super accurate, and are willing to remove your calipers and your SHOCKS it's a really good tool. You also might need to scale the part that measures the tyre width a bit wider. It defaults to a 7.5in tyre and I mean who is running that. Luckily with the magic of CAD this is very easy to rescale.
    • jeebus. glad you weren't under it while performing the stunt. Also thanks for the link to the wheel measurer, exactly what I needed
    • In the older stuff there were very significant differences 2wd to 4wd, for example Stagea had strut front end for 2wd and double wishbone for 4wd so it was not minor to swap. From poking around the 2wd v37, it *looks* like it might be more possible; some of the parts specifically have "2wd" stamped on them which suggests the platforms are more similar. You'd still want to start with a 4wd half cut to swap stuff from though. I'd suggest if you don't have a tune on the ECU you don't really need one on the trans either. Throttle mapping is in the ECU side (and you can always use a Roar Pedal if you want the throttle to actually respond to your foot), and really if you are happy with the stock power you probably accept the stock trans behaviour too....its all made to be "sporty" not racey.
    • So, updates. I have not washed the car since it came back from Tassie. I've driven it around a bit but not got around to actually sorting it out. I DID raise it because I cracked the rear bar leaving a hotel which was very distressing. Interestingly, the car drives more compliant now that it's raised a fair bit (5mm front, 15mm rear). Also noticed that my FR height was 10mm lower than FL. So that's now sorted out, too. I also bought this and had it printed: https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/1576422240/wheel-and-tire-fitment-tool-universal?ref=shop_home_feat_1&dd=1&logging_key=08f604d9fa4cc383550ba985e6ac85cd5cac7fbb%3A1576422240 Now, if I was smart I would have taken my brake calipers off to actually use this correctly but it was evident enough to me that in the region where the caliper was... there was nothing to hit suspension/guard/arm wise. So I'm going with "it'll be fine" after using the tool to hopefully very precisely measure the wheel clearance. Also while doing this, I had the very VERY bad idea of jacking one of the wheels/suspension arms up while the rest of the car was on jack stands. I did this to see how the arm would travel. This all was well and good until the car slid off the stands and went through a fence. So don't do that. Incredibly nobody was hurt and there was only minor damage to the rear bumper as the car didn't have far to slide, and had 3-4 wheels on it. The only damage turned out to be the fence itself which was easy to fix, and a little bit of damage to the fibreglass rear bumper trim. I had already planned to try a touch up paint kit to fix the time I drove into my garage door to see if it'd help in the interim before I get it fixed properly. I used the Dr Colorchip kit after looking online and seeing everyone talking about it. Yes it's made for chips and not huge broken missing pieces and I'll be 500% recommending it for stone chips after using it for stupid things like me. This took about ... 10 minutes and looking at the half assed photo the 30 second job I did on the bumper corner was almost perfect just by using the tiny little brush and painting it in. The sealact stuff to remove over-painting is really useful, so if/when I do it again I'll likely slather the touch up paint well over it and then clean it up with the cleaning solution. The wheels should arrive in a couple of weeks. I am still kinda confident after doing a stupid amount of measuring (and borrowing a set of 18x10.5+15) that they will not fit because I overlooked something, somehow and flew too close to the sun. ALSO R34 GTR guard liners do not fit on a GTT. I bought the undertray brake duct guides and had the wonderful problem of them not fitting my intake, my oil cooler and the liners themselves were even worse. Attempting to fit them won't work in general - You would have to cut them up as another poster mentioned as the bodywork is different on the GTT. At least I can try to resell them. So instead of cutting those up, I cut up my old already-cut-up GTT liners and extended them by using some PP plastic and drilling some 8mm holes for some nissan clips for the 'extra' bit. Because I was happy to cut them I was able to mount them pretty damn forward so I now have some semblance of guard liners, and the brake vents seal the bumper from the bottom. It sort-of-looks like this, to give some idea - If you look at the GTR and then the GTT this is when I realised that I needed to seriously measure as the inside of the rim area is entirely, entirely, entirely different and could not take any internet measurements for granted.   
×
×
  • Create New...