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I was watching this car shop this evening and they said the GTR is the 9th best sportscar of all time.

That is some big SH.T.

No other car from Japan was on the list.

I saw this on the Discovery Channel.

Just a little FYI.

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nsx was a great car but was always regarded as under-powered, thats why the new v10 model i think coming out next year is going to be awesome, they having 2 models a v6 and the v10 mmmm should be nice looks hot to.

Ps i work at a Honda NSX dealer (only 1 in melb and i think only another 3 or 4 in the country) so when it comes out we'll have a couple on the yard mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cant wait

togue isn't exactly the best measure of a good car, nor is an american tuned R34... I've got more fingers than they have R34 GTR's :)

Most car shows talk about stock for stock based on performance, looks, power, and circuit times when it comes to sports cars.

togue isn't exactly the best measure of a good car, nor is an american tuned R34... I've got more fingers than they have R34 GTR's :)

Most car shows talk about stock for stock based on performance, looks, power, and circuit times when it comes to sports cars.

true, but i just thought i'd throw it in :D

gtr is considered to be the truest japanese supercar....i.e the only japanese supercar.

Its built off a passenger car. How can it be a "supercar", which should have a bespoke platform?

The only true supercar made by a big Japanese car manufacturer is the NSX.

Its built off a passenger car. How can it be a "supercar", which should have a bespoke platform?

The only true supercar made by a big Japanese car manufacturer is the NSX.

I thought the r32 was built from the ground up , i think the r33 was based off some passenger car (might be wrong)

What is a supercar anyhow , a 200kw mid 13`s car that what the nsx was back in 1990 when it was released, i think u have to be in the 11`s to be a supercar

Here is the list and the only reason the Miata is on this list is because it reintroduce the 2 seat small sportscar back in the 80s.

What do you think of the list??

Lamborghini Countach (5000QV)

Year: 1984

Power: 455 HP

Engine: 5,167 ccm, V 12 mid-engine

Weight: 1,494 kg

Top speed: 306 km/h

Rank: 10th

Nissan Skyline

Year: 1968 onwards

Power: 400 HP

Engine: 4,500 ccm, V8, Biturbo

Weight: 1,400-1,800 kg

Top speed: 260+ km/h

Rank: 9th

Corvette Sting Ray

Year: 1967

Power: 300-435 HP

Engine: 6,490–6,999 ccm, V8

Weight: 1300-1371 kg

Top speed: 240 km/h

Rank: 8th

Aston Martin DB5

Year: 1963

Power: 285.9 HP

Engine: 3,996 ccm, V12

Weight: 1465 kg

Top speed: 229 km/h

Rank: 7th

Mercedes Gullwing SL

Year: 1954

Power: 215 HP

Engine: 2,996 ccm, 6 cylinder

Weight: 1295 kg

Top speed: 235 - 260 km/h

Rank: 6th

Ferrari Enzo

Year: 2002

Power: 660 HP

Engine: 5,998 ccm, V12

Weight: 1,365 kg

Top speed: 360 km/h

Rank: 5th

Jaguar E-Type

Year: 1961

Power: 320 HP

Engine: 3,781 ccm, 6 cylinder

Weight: 980 kg

Top speed: 270+ km/h

Rank: 4th

MacLaren F 1

Year: 1994

Power: 627 HP

Engine: 6,064 ccm, V12

Weight: 1,140 kg

Top speed: 368 km/h

Rank: 3rd

Mazda Miata

Year: 1989

Power: 116 HP

Engine: 1,597 ccm, 4 cylinder

Weight: 955 kg

Top speed: 220 km/h

Rank: 2nd

Porsche 911

Year: 1964

Power: 130 HP

Engine: 1,991 ccm, 6 cylinder boxer

Weight: 1,080 kg

Top speed: 210 km/h

Rank: 1st

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Its built off a passenger car. How can it be a "supercar", which should have a bespoke platform?

The only true supercar made by a big Japanese car manufacturer is the NSX.

I think its cos people consider it to be up there with the likes of porsche and ferrari (355) or something - i forget......however i dont know how true that is, but thats just what i heard.

The show was called "The Greatest Ever - Top 10 Sports cars".

Anyone else notice they showed a R33 GTS-T and kept referring to AWD and the R34 LCD display?

Very confusing and annoying.

Mclaren should have been no.1 in my books.

I thought the r32 was built from the ground up , i think the r33 was based off some passenger car (might be wrong)

What is a supercar anyhow , a 200kw mid 13`s car that what the nsx was back in 1990 when it was released, i think u have to be in the 11`s to be a supercar

R32 GTR came out a few months after the R32 GTS coupes and sedans. All skylines, regardless of generation are based on a passenger car platform. The first skyline ever made was made as a 4 door passenger car. It just *happened* to win a couple of races so they decided to make a coupe in the next model that was developed.

To classify as a supercar it has to be a bespoke platform... ie designed from the ground up with only one purpose... to be a supercar, it can't have family car variants etc, which is why an evo, skyline etc aren't supercars. This is why the Z platform is considered the "true" sports car in the Nissan family, whereas the skylines are considered sports sedans... When a true supercar is made, you get to customise everything from the trim of your choice and colour (not just pick one from a bunch that the factory offers) to number of gears and gearing, seat shape etc. Basically handmade for custom one off order.

The closest things to japanese supercars are NSX's, GTO's and 300ZX's (all 3 of which were coincidentally sold worldwide, including australia and america).

Nissan Skyline

Year: 1968 onwards

Power: 400 HP

Engine: 4,500 ccm, V8, Biturbo

Weight: 1,400-1,800 kg

Top speed: 260+ km/h

Rank: 9th

i got soooooooooooo ripped!

where's my 4.5 lt twin turbo v8?

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