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250T RS Four = VQ25DET with ATTESSA.

250 RS Four = VQ25DD with ATTESSA

T = turbo

Four = ATTESSA AWD

Not sure. Everyone's been hi flowing them....starts from $900 (hypergear)

Stock vs Stock, the WRX would be superior in every aspect I'd say. Mods vs Mods I'd think the WRX still has the edge due to its weight advantage...

Not sure - but you can tell the cars age by checking everything else (interior, exterior, wear and tear etc)

GPS cannot be used here...to use the VDU you'll need (well, yuo don't HAVE to) get a translation done. Andy & Ducati are the people to speak with...

Don't see why not. Andy's in Sydney, so's Northshore...

Thanks Buddy, that's given me a much better idea.

WRX is smaller though isn't it? So wouldn't be superior in every aspect. Also every WRX wagon I've been in feels cheap inside compared to the M35. M35 feels more solid, and expensive. Just a nice place to be.

My original post was in relation to performance, not functionality or quality. I can tell from the pictures that the Stagea cremes the WRX for quality of fitout.

The Stagea looks large and cumbersome. I've driven my old mans Ford Territory and that feels cumbersome.

Would people describe the Stagea as a Gran Tourer, more than sporty OR is the suspension stiff enough that body roll isn't an issue when pushing it around bends.

Edited by Drogba

WRX is smaller though isn't it? So wouldn't be superior in every aspect. Also every WRX wagon I've been in feels cheap inside compared to the M35. M35 feels more solid, and expensive. Just a nice place to be.

Hey he wasn't asking about the interior ;p

lol, stock RS with exhaust (no dump) vs stock WRX with exhaust.

WRX wins from standstill, but rolling start RS should eat a GD WRX (speaks from experience)

Hmm maybe Ur right. I just think with our gimped throttle and weight that a Rex would be superior...

My original post was in relation to performance, not functionality or quality. I can tell from the pictures that the Stagea cremes the WRX for quality of fitout.

The Stagea looks large and cumbersome. I've driven my old mans Ford Territory and that feels cumbersome.

Would people describe the Stagea as a Gran Tourer, more than sporty OR is the suspension stiff enough that body roll isn't an issue when pushing it around bends.

You are talking about a stock family wagon, of course it wont have race suspension under it but there are plenty of options if you want a firmer ride. Stock they are just a wagon.

Most of us look to upgrade to coilovers and stiffer sway bars. The brakes can be upgraded very easily, the power/torque can nearly be tripled without opening the engine and with just a highflow turbo. They can be as sporty as you want them to be, certainly not Territory cumbersome but not light either as they weigh around 1800kg.

Operative word there is "Family." That's been the problem with the lack of information on the net. I couldn't even figure out what market it was aimed at. So, stock it's nothing too dynamic but some minor mods and you can have the best of both worlds.

Upgraded coilovers, swaybars and turbo, how much am I looking at here for that. If it costs too much it could be cheaper just to buy a WRX wagon.

I think these sort of cars are the way of the future. Luxury and performance without looking like you've got a small wang. If had infinite money i'd go the new Ferrari FF or the Audi RS6 Wagon.

The natural balance of the Stagea M35 is the best on the market for the wagon with weight distribution 52% front axle and 48% rear axle. This is a great start for handling but it can be easily improved with the fitment of sway bars alone.

I can do the language conversion on a series 1 M35 at NorthShore easly as my work is not far away.

Cheers

Andy

Put it this way, I have surpassed the performance of the RS6 Wagon, great handling and nice modern interior for a quarter of the cost of the Audi. (That's my pick if I had the cash.) No plod have ever shown interest in it either, just the way I like it.

The natural balance of the Stagea M35 is the best on the market for the wagon with weight distribution 52% front axle and 48% rear axle. This is a great start for handling but it can be easily improved with the fitment of sway bars alone.

I can do the language conversion on a series 1 M35 at NorthShore easly as my work is not far away.

Cheers

Andy

Thanks Andy,

What price region am i looking at to get this done?

Put it this way, I have surpassed the performance of the RS6 Wagon, great handling and nice modern interior for a quarter of the cost of the Audi. (That's my pick if I had the cash.) No plod have ever shown interest in it either, just the way I like it.

You've surpassed the performance of a car holding a lambo Twin Turbo V10! Be Jebus

I should be able to crack 11's fairly easily once the new turbo goes in, if it all holds up. What do the Audi's do out of the box?

Looks like we have nailed that car.....what's next!........you just got to work on cracking that 171.5km/h Scott :P....lol. Without the limiter(which I don't have) and with these ratio's I am pretty sure these cars would be good for about 250km/h......but an RS6 is made to cruise on 250km/h....but how often do you do those speeds.

I have to say that the last time I drove a WRX I was completely unimpressed!

20K(car) + 10K-12K(mods) and it should match an RS6........then you can have a couple of toy's in the Garage as well with the change.

Edited by Jetwreck

It will run off the stock ecu to a point, but it will run like ass and possibly hit airflow cut as the ecu isnt tuned for the extra airflow. My suggestion is not to go too large and if you don't plan to run the emanage eventually, keep the wheels almost stock sized. (or just replace the turbo with a stock one)

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