R35 Horsepower Figures

[philta]

woah! im on my uni breaks from mechatronics eng and physics still haunts me here LOL.

please dont make me get my books out.

lets put it this way, cars are approx 20-30% efficient. And in the worlds of todays technology, its not how much power u have, its how u put the power down that moves the car. i think we all can agree on that. just remember this..... NISSAN have NEVER overrated their power figures in performance cars.

sure the car will get from 0-100 in 3.3 but its doesn't necessary mean it will last more than 10 launch.

almost of japan workshop have been delivered their gtr's just give them a week or so to break in the engines before serious thrashing can begins on the dyno's.

[Laurence]

force and energy ARE different things. that's why they have different names!

Force is just energy doing something... everything is energy, you, me, the tree, the rock, everything, yes. Even between the land and the ship.

If an unstoppable force meets an immovable object then the universe explodes.

The wall does get hotter, the person gets tired. Energy is conserved.

[hrd-hr30]

Force is just energy doing something... everything is energy, you, me, the tree, the rock, everything, yes. Even between the land and the ship.

from the well respected physics text, "Yuri the Guru's guide to the universe"?

Force is not Energy doing something. You've got it back to front. Energy (in physics) is a measure of Work done by an applied Force.

If an unstoppable force meets an immovable object then the universe explodes.

The wall does get hotter, the person gets tired. Energy is conserved.

who said anything about an unstoppable force? universe exploding? OK then...

energy is always conserved within or between systems. no argument there, but that's a different thing all together. Forces can be applied but do no Work with no Energy transferred, and that's what is happening. Force spent doing nothing = no Energy output. go lean against a wall for 5 minutes - you are applying a Force to it, but you won't get tired and the wall won't heat up from the force (ignoring the conduction of body heat - let's assume that the wall was at body temp beforehand). By leaning on the wall and imparting a Force, you've created a Potential Energy. you haven't transferred any Energy to the wall because you've done no Work on it.

[rb26s13]

almost of japan workshop have been delivered their gtr's just give them a week or so to break in the engines before serious thrashing can begins on the dyno's.

i guess mines and mcr didnt get that msg? didnt they take there cars straight from nissan to tsukaba?

Edited December 26, 2007 by rb26s13

[RNS-11Z]

I also read that the new gtr engine every 10k or once year is stripped and rebuilt?? can any one confirm this

[philta]

i thought it was 100,000kms not 10k.

apparently (correct me if im wrong) somebody mentioned that Nissan recommends a rebuild after 100, 000km.

Edited December 27, 2007 by philta

[MMM]

i thought it was 100,000kms not 10k.

apparently (correct me if im wrong) somebody mentioned that Nissan recommends a rebuild after 100, 000km.

why would you buy one then

thats ridiculous that the engine would only last 100k

[Duncan]

lol i wish our race motors would last 10,000klm

[R338OY]

GT-Rs were heavy enough as it was; in tighter corners their weight could really be felt and could prove to be quite tricky to handle in some situations (mainly in a series of tight corners where the weight of the car is shifting from one side to the other and/or front to rear; and also when entering a corner hard under breaks, the front would could push wide because of the weight).

Even though Nissan seem to have engineered the car very well, imagine how much faster it would be had they kept the weight down.

Bear in mind that Nissan have dumped their inline 6's. They are poorly balanced (weight-wise) compared the the VQ & VR engines and that's why they just want to understeer all day through tight bends.

Look at some of the JGTC examples: the GT500 Supra using an inline 4, or the R34 GTR with a VQ rather than an RB. At speed the more even weight distribution speaks for itself performance-wise. Look at the damn R35 gearbox. It's under the boot!

That said, the R35 is a bit of a fat sh!t.

[giant]

yep the new engine, all alloy block , but without cylinder liners!! instead a o.15 plasma sprayed bore which they must be concerned about & want to keep an eye on i would say.

i will almost guarantee that one of the first rebuild mods will be to put liners in the bores. mind you it will effect weight balance by a few kilograms (but then again so do i)

[izataskyrine?]

I'm saying trim the weight back 100Kg or so and you guys are reading build a stripped out racecar the size of a lotus elise.

Are previous GTR's too uncomfortable and compromised? They weigh considerably less than the R35; yet i don't hear many complain about their structural integrity or the interior space. Nissan could have easily kept the weight of the car down; the only reason i can see for them to avoid doing this is cost since lighter weight and higher strength material would cost more. Bear in mind the new engine is probably a lot lighter than the RB series and i'm guessing most of the components in the driveline are also lighter and stronger. Which brings me back to my original question, where has the extra weight come from?

Supple leather

How the F&% do u guys no this kinda s$#%?!?!?! F%$# me... goddamn physics and energy and universes exploding and shit.. its just a car, a car that was never intended to be driven by any of you its a cruiser. The only reason its fast is for cred, so that people will want it, desire it. The only reason it carries the GT-R badge is for the same reason, desireability and credibilty. Its all marketing, Carlos Ghosn is a genious and he is in the progress of turning nissan around from bankruptcy. The name is just a name, this is not the GT-R of old, its simply not, it carries different design philosiphies. Its fat cus the target audience nissan has aimed the car at wants it to be like that. They want the comfort, hey want the awesome sound system and the sat nav and the heated seats and all that shit.

Excuse my spelling i never finished high school.

[R338OY]

Excuse my spelling i never finished high school.

Bwahahahaha

You apologise so eloquently.

[Brockas]

While in Japan checking out the new GTR, I spotted this:

Note, "Max Power (NET)".... I'm guessing thats Nissan's way of accounting for drivetrain losses. NET = power at the wheels.

[Beer Baron]

nah it's not. have a read up on net power. it's not power at the wheels.

[mystery_kid]

no such thing as an R35

you might be talking about the V35 ?

[Beer Baron]

no such thing as an R35

you might be talking about the V35 ?

ummmmm okkaaay. there was this small car release recently. you may have heard of it. something like Nissan R35 GTR?!?

[Angus Smart]

ummmmm okkaaay. there was this small car release recently. you may have heard of it. something like Nissan R35 GTR?!?

holy f**king shit batman!!

[Angus Smart]

no such thing as an R35

you might be talking about the V35 ?

[Guest trikdoutvl]

ALL THE ENERGY U BOYS PUT INTO THIS THREAD U COULD HAVE CURED GLOBAL WARMING

p.s r35 is fugily