bozodos Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I thought the latest on HFCS was that it's pretty much the same difference as any other sugar, and the 'sugars are evil thing' was also overblown hyperbole Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7248172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajae Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I thought the latest on HFCS was that it's pretty much the same difference as any other sugar, and the 'sugars are evil thing' was also overblown hyperbole Whilst I think the media likes to jump on certain band wagons without much thought ("fats make you fat"), they're throwing out the baby with the water. Inherently, everything can be bad, provided the dose is sufficient. Water is required to sustain life... drink 10 litres in one go; just make sure to leave a note for the funeral. The issue with HFCS, is that it is a highly refined by-product. It's cheap to produce, as the chemicals used to derive the substance are also cheap. Because it is basically entirely pure refined fructose, your liver processes it quite differently, to say, fructose from an apple. This can lead to fatty liver disease. Now, in regards to "the dose is the poison" line of thinking, we can see some silver lining. Here in Australia, HFCS is not anywhere near as prevalent in the food industry due to our sweetening coming from more natural sources, and the fact that we don't have a corn-growing industry with a supply which FAR outweighs the demand. This is why in the USA for example, HFCS is in everything. And here in lies the problem for markets such as the US: By consuming excess amounts of HFCS, you have a greater chance of reaching toxic levels quicker. The off shoot to this, is that 1 gram of HFCS, is a hell of a lot worse than 1 gram of raw sugar. The threshold for what your body can handle is much lower with HFCS. So you can see why replacing 40 grams of sugar in a bottle of coke to 40+ grams of HFCS can lead to drastic problems. And, from what I have read and understand, unlike artificial sweeteners (which have a greater magnitude of perceived sweetness), HFCS has the same if not lower magnitude than regular sugar. So, aside from what the general consensus is, I still firmly believe that HFCS is a boat load worse than standard sugar. You see it every where in the food industry.. Soon as something starts becoming more refined and more refined... it steadily gets worse. Think olive oil. The difference in nutritional quality between refined and cold pressed extra virgin is surprisingly high! But, once again, it all comes down to how much is consumed. Personally, I freaking LOVE KFC chicken. Regardless of the fact that it's loaded with trans fat (which are clinically proven to be toxic to the human body), I know that by only having it every now and then, I can mitigate/lessen the effects it produces. The same can be said of those who consume HFCS. If you're interested in some reads, I'm pretty sure I've got some pages saved that I can share Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7248303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FIGJAM- Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 made me lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7253506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33SH Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Just deadlifted double my body weight 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7255409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FIGJAM- Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 well done leesh i squated like a bitch today. Slowly getting back into it now im over my knee issue Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7255735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bogan Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Need to lose 1.5kg to get into the under 80kg class at work. I've got to next Thursday otherwise I'll be in the over 80kg class competing against 120 kg guys. After a warm up I've got 1hr to my best 4 reps on deads, squats, bench and military press. Should be fun. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7256326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33SH Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Thanks Mitch, squats are my worst exercise, so inconsistent too Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7256336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I like to squat, but I dont think ill ever be one of those guys that squat super heavy weights. I tried squat in an oly shoe during the week and I like it. Feel a little more stable and its easier to hit legal depth. Hopefully it translates into strength gains after a while. Might also look at getting a belt soon I think. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7256658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 got told tonight that someone has slipped on some chalk dust at the gym and hurt themselves, so I can no longer use it, going to see the manager about using liquid chalk tomorrow, but failing that I guess I'll have to become home gym master race. FML Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7258886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Slipped on chalk lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7258910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 yeah I reckon it's a bullshit pretense to ban it - the floor of the weights room is smooth rubber matting, but even so. The only places I've ever seen it accumulate are next to the power rack pins, at the head of the benches and right next to the leg of the curl rack. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7258939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 If it was on tiles or bare concrete then maybe slipping on chalk dust is possible, but not on rubber gym tiles. They are definitely lying to you... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7259085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Tell them you slipped on crossfit boxes Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7259098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM7GTR Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 If they maintained the gym properly, and vacuumed that area, it wouldn't be an issue Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7259190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 If they maintained the gym properly, and vacuumed that area, it wouldn't be an issue I agree - I think the actual story is that someone is either feeding them a line, or they're lying so that they don't have to clean it up. If they don't allow me to at least try liquid chalk, I'll be cancelling my membership. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7259237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajae Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Tell them you slipped on crossfit boxes Hahahahahahahahaha... Oh damn that was good. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7259291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 For anyone who buys whey from BN... About a month ago they switched suppliers for their whey concentrate. The verdict? It's fkin awesome. Mixes much better; just well as the WPI now and no waiting for the foam to settle like with the previous WPC. Taste is a bit different, not better not worse (at least for the chocolate flavor). Definitely recommend it over WPI for the $50 saving. Only weird thing is they sent me 10 x 1kg packs instead of 2 x 5kg. Each one has a scoop in it too lol Really liking the BN website right now. They have a no bullshit supplements guide on there that is very transparent with regard to selling you supps; tells you which ones are supported by studies, which ones aren't, which will benefit a particular individual and which of their own products someone would be wasting their money on. Complete opposite of the GNC approach. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7259404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I think they do the 1kg bags now so you can get different flavours but still have the same overall price. Not a bad idea really. The wpi foams a little with thw current supplier but it settles super quick. They definitely are a good supp supplier and I doubt ill ever switch from them. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7259526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotato Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Let me know via pm if you guys want a link to Generation Iron Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7259683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Send Leesh a PM, I think she was after it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/200767-gym-and-supplement-discussion/page/526/#findComment-7259713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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