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Hi, found this race shell. Looks crazy. Thinking of bidding on it but just wondering how much it would cost to build it to a full time attack B reg car...

Anyone have a clue?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...E:IT&ih=012

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Sydneykid Grand Master

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Take it from someone who has built up many a race car from a caged shell, it's not worth very much at all. Buying the necessary parts to complete it would cost way more than buying a complete R34GTR, making it into a race car and then selling off the road car bits that you don't need. Looking at it, the roll cage wouldn't be FIA complient, so parts of it would have to be redone, then the complete cage would need to be engineered. Acid dipping is no big deal, a few hundred dollars gets that done locally. Seam welding takes time but not a lot of materials, if you can weld it's a small cost, say another couple of hundred dollars. Realistically the $1K to get it from Perth is about all it's worth.

Cheers

Gary

Marlin Grand Master

Marlin

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ok, so, if you already had a 34 gtr caged etc, and you wanted it as a spare shell.... what do you reckon it's worth? I suppose I'm asking whats a good 34 gtr shell worth and can you get them? I know what it costs to do all the prep and cage etc....

Thoughts guys?

Sydneykid Grand Master

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ok, so, if you already had a 34 gtr caged etc, and you wanted it as a spare shell.... what do you reckon it's worth? I suppose I'm asking whats a good 34 gtr shell worth and can you get them? I know what it costs to do all the prep and cage etc....

Thoughts guys?

I can't see any value more than than a grand or two for it, including the grand freight.

I'll stick by what said, buying a complete R34GTR, using the shell only and then selling off all the road car bits that you don't need would be cheaper.

What would also be cheaper is buying a half cut (the half that you damage) and repairing the current shell.

Cheers

Gary

Marlin Grand Master

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Ok fair enough..... stock 34 gtr for say 40k, part it out, re-gain 35k (be doin real well to get that i reckon, and whats your time worth talkin to Wallies) selling everything of any real value leaves it owing, say, 5k.

Cage it - 5k

dip/media blast, whatever - a grand

labour/moving it around etc - whats your time worth?

I'm not being argumentive, believe me, but it's gotta be worth 5 hasn't it?

Oh, and if I go off, knowing my luck it'll rip both ends off it, so an end cut would be no good :P LOL

Sydneykid Grand Master

Sydneykid

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Ok fair enough..... stock 34 gtr for say 40k, part it out, re-gain 35k (be doin real well to get that i reckon, and whats your time worth talkin to Wallies) selling everything of any real value leaves it owing, say, 5k.

Cage it - 5k

dip/media blast, whatever - a grand

labour/moving it around etc - whats your time worth?

I'm not being argumentive, believe me, but it's gotta be worth 5 hasn't it?

Oh, and if I go off, knowing my luck it'll rip both ends off it, so an end cut would be no good :P LOL

I still don't think so. If you rip both ends off, you are going to needs lots of stuff that a bare shell doesn't have, bumpers, guards, lights, wiring, coolers, radiator, bonnet, boot etc etc. Stuff that will cost you both time and money to find. Stuff that you get if you buy a complete car to part out.

Cheers

Gary

giant Mentor

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i can almost garantee he wont part with that shell for under 15 grand, "( but i maybe wrong)

also had some dubious history on here, as sydneykid said the cage would have to be modified too.

would be a good buy at the right price (low) but alot of things still required from a road car and you'll be flat out finding a damaged one that is cheap to buy .

Boss-zilla Mentor

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i have spoken to him and the min he will take at the moment is $20G so getting a complete car then striping it may seem a better idea.

Also if it will not take stock front guards then there is another big problem in finding/making guards to fit.

Duncan Grand Master

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well since its listed on ebay with no reserve I am pretty sure he will part with it cheap when the auction ends....

If you had an r34 and were thinking about building it into a track/race car this shell would be a much better start - assuming the cage is CAMS approved, or can easily be modified to be cams approved (remember it would be around 5k to get the cad drawings and engineering done if it doesn't meet the guidelines)

Roy Grand Master

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All those talking about parting out a GTR being cheaper. Lots of guys who race cars struggle to change tyres so dont discount the labour component of building a car.

LOl, the flip side is i have seen what is required to build a Grp A car from a shell and its a farking ball ache if it needs to comply with a class or a its previous form :happy:

F u r i o u s Proficient

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i got info from the owner and he said that standard guards can fit on the shell, the air jack stands can be cut off easily he says which is the only thing different on the shell to another road car obviously except the cage etc etc.

I cant see how this thing is worth less than $15k as it would take alot of time and money to build it to the specs of an original nismo shell, i mean seriously the reason why people would want it is for the time saving and money saving plus the reassurance of knowing it is built by NISMO...

I'\m gonna bid on it, i cant afford a whole 34 for a part out and that would take a century, i mean i have a stock gearbox, 2530 turbos and other stock parts for sale and nobody wants any of it... I can transfer my gear into it, he said that the standard dash, seats, suspension, kit bar cutting off the jack stands all fit, he said that it is the same as any car but with all the hard labour of an original 'known' quality engineer... I cant see any problem with b reg on it with stock stuff in it till i can afford all the gucci stuff, i mean its built by nismo, not some dodge welder if its good enough for their series then its good enough for me.

I guess first in first served...

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Beer Baron Grand Master

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why would you refit standard dash and seats? it can never be used as a road car and those parts are not suitable for track use?

it will take probably at least $100K to turn it into a decent track car, but i don't know what (if any) class it would be elligible for. so then you have one mighty expensive track thrash car. Think of all the gear you need to get

RB26 engine

loom

all the intake gear

brakes, all the brake piping

heater

gear box

all the drive shafts

hubs

arms

basically every little nut and bolt.

really what you would have to do would be buy a second working R34 GTR. then transfer over every last piece to the shell. then you need to start adding the track oriented gear another $50K there.

it would be a good buy for a couple of grand but not much more than that. :P

Sydneykid Grand Master

Sydneykid

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i got info from the owner and he said that standard guards can fit on the shell, the air jack stands can be cut off easily he says which is the only thing different on the shell to another road car obviously except the cage etc etc.

I cant see how this thing is worth less than $15k as it would take alot of time and money to build it to the specs of an original nismo shell, i mean seriously the reason why people would want it is for the time saving and money saving plus the reassurance of knowing it is built by NISMO...

I'\m gonna bid on it, i cant afford a whole 34 for a part out and that would take a century, i mean i have a stock gearbox, 2530 turbos and other stock parts for sale and nobody wants any of it... I can transfer my gear into it, he said that the standard dash, seats, suspension, kit bar cutting off the jack stands all fit, he said that it is the same as any car but with all the hard labour of an original 'known' quality engineer... I cant see any problem with b reg on it with stock stuff in it till i can afford all the gucci stuff, i mean its built by nismo, not some dodge welder if its good enough for their series then its good enough for me.

I guess first in first served...

Word of caution. You are going to have to buy and fit all of the bolt on R34GTR body parts, plus any interior parts that you want to fit. I strongly suggest that you add the cost of them up, plus the mechanical parts that you don't already have. When I did it, it added up to over $30K and I have a lot of high quality parts already. Then compare that with what you can buy an R34GTR for and then sell of the parts that you don't need, including what you already have.

From what I have seen of the Group A cars, the locally built Gibson built ones were heaps better than anything out of Japan. I don't think it being built by Nismo adds 1% to it's worth as a bare chassis.

Cheers

Gary

giant Mentor

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agree with both the last two posts

and i just did the costs too! especially when you can buy an r34 in australia for just over 40 grand and have bits to sell.

and the cage definately needs mods to meet cams spec

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