WARNING: 15 year rule changes

[2Much]

Does anyone out there know WTF is happening with the 15 year import rule? I was looking at trying to import a 15 year R32 Skyline from Japan but I've now heard that the rule is possibly being revised.

One possiblility is apparently that they'll change it to a 25 year old car, another is that the car can only be imported the day it turns 15 (ie not just the year it turns 15).

The govt has already wrecked the import market by introducing the SEVS compliance and now this?

Any more up to date info?

[2fardown]

Even if the 15 year old rule is changed its not going to take affect overnight. It would take months.

[rev210]

Yep, you can bet a few $$$ on that one being changed, it is right at this moment.

Hope no one has bought anything in Japan, that is unless you like to gamble.

Why not wait till next year anyway to get your car and be safe?

[2Much]

That's pretty much the only thing I can do at the moment (wait until next year, that is).

I would assume that it's going to cost me more then (cos everybody will be in a bidding war for the '89 models) but I'll just wait and see. Was hoping to pick up an ex-Japan R32 GTS-t for around $10K landed. My other option is to stump up more money and buy an R32 / R33 that's already been landed in Aus. Heaps of R33's around at the moment but they go for $15K and up.

[ricknismo]

Its confusing hey..I mean is there a dock wort of bought 89 model cars just sitting there waiting...It would be august before they were all sent.

[Soulja]

Umm, i am pretty sure that the 15yr old rule ISNT going 2 change go ask Drift (i think that is his name) he works for the transport place and he does shit fot the RAW system so he knows wat is going on, i talk 2 him about 15yr old rule and he was very helpful!

[ricknismo]

Why cant we bring them here and wait till january?

[Soulja]

ricknismo, i dont see why not. the car doesnt have 2 be reg if u dont want it 2 therefore the car can sit in you carport (if u tow it there) for 10yrs

dont quote me on this

[rev210]

Originally posted by Soulja

Umm, i am pretty sure that the 15yr old rule ISNT going 2 change go ask Drift (i think that is his name) he works for the transport place and he does shit fot the RAW system so he knows wat is going on, i talk 2 him about 15yr old rule and he was very helpful!

My source is from the politcal/legislative side of things, the transport dept find out last, ask your friend he'll tell you how the politicians are wankers for giving info in on time. There is a decent lobby to change the legislation comming from within the industry with some assurances already given to them on the change. IF you don't want the laws changed then write to federal minister for transport (seriously do this they do take notice).

[Soulja]

rev210; check out

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...&threadid=22413

The only thing to worry about at the moment is year month of manufacture on 89 model cars.

ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA TO IMPORT A VEHICLE TO AUSTRALIA

Vehicles 15 years or older – Part 4 on the Application Form

Vehicles 15 years or older may be imported to Australia without restriction. This means there are no ownership and use requirements and no Compliance Plate is issued. An Import Approval is required to collect the vehicle. Please note that the Import Approval is a Commonwealth government requirement and vehicles are not exempt from State or Territory registration requirements. You should contact the motor vehicle registration authority in the State or Territory where you intend to register the vehicle for information on their requirements.

Documents required to be submitted with the application form:

$50.00 application fee, purchase document, certified picture ID if first time applicant.

[R31Nismoid]

Originally posted by ricknismo

Why cant we bring them here and wait till january?

cause then they arent classed as a 15 yr old import.

they are a 15 yr old car imported 14 years after it being made. (in respect to the month too)

Does that sound right??

But yer, if they change the law (which most likely the govn't will) then there will be a number of people stuck with cars over there that'll go nowhere.

If they dont, then people are gonna get some good bargains if they've brought now or in the past few months

[JimX]

One thing I've learned about governments is that they never do anything quickly. They are waiting until November to introduce the big 50kph default limit (in NSW), and this is something which will apparently save many lives.

I find it very hard to believe they would be changing something about the 15 year old import rule overnight. If you have already bought an '89 car in Japan, I'm pretty sure you'll be ok to get it on the road next year.

[rev210]

Originally posted by Soulja

rev210; check out  

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/sh...&threadid=22413

The only thing to worry about at the moment is year month of manufacture on 89 model cars.  

No, actually you need to worry about the fact that the compliancing is completely changed, they used to accept compliance evidence from just about anyone and most of the time just rubber stamp things and issue plates. Vehilces under this new system will be looked at a lot harder.

The Laws on15yr vehicles may well be changed before 2004, meaning that 89' car you paid to import won't ever be seen here.

BTW, legislation of this kind can be changed very quickly if there is no real opposition to it.

Like I said before pay up-front only if your a gambler.Political ignorance is not your friend.

[Morgs]

The Departments policy on 15 years old vehicle will be changing on 1 October 2003 all vehicles to qualify under this scheme must be 15 years old by month to qualify for import. In regards to any other changes to this scheme this section will not be privy to any changes until they are announced to the general public as the would be classed as cabinet in confidence.

Sorry I can not be of any more assistance.

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I just got this emailed to me from DOTARS.

To those who have cars in Japan I hope you are prepared to wait a bit longer. PM me if you have a car waiting in Japan and was not aware of this rule.

[mxfly]

Very handy info, thanks. I'm looking into importing a cheap MX5 so I'll keep the new rule in mind.

[Rezz]

How shite. Thats like saying "your car can come to Australia after it`s 15th birthday"...

Whats a few months difference? Thats really being pedantic.

[dkonig]

What month did they start making the 32 GTR's?

[dkonig]

If you want to be safe, buy a car like the R32 that is eligable under SEVS, so even if they do change the 15 year rule you can still bring it in, you will have to pay compliance but you wont lose all your dough

[2Much]

Yes but try finding anyone in Australia that actually has a SEVS compliance plate for R32 Skylines. It's too expensive and too difficult to bother with for the R32's (especially since they are expected to come into Aus under the 15 year rule net year). So there's no guarantee that you could even get the car complianced.

In Perth at the moment there's only 2 or 3 places that actually can do compliance under SEVS and they only have R33 compliance registered. Oh, and there's one place that has SEVS compliance for Supras (costs $5000).

[dkonig]

I think price will definately come down, and suppliers go up by the time 2004 comes, and its still a safer option than getting something not eligable under SEVS