Speed camera insanity !!!

[EXIT]

I think they've completely lost the plot now!!!

http://drive.fairfax.com.au/content-new/ne...FXGWV44LLD.html

[SLY33]

load of BS!!

[Jimbo2000]

whoah

gotta hand it to them for thinking it up

[predator]

But Transport Minister Peter Batchelor, Police and Emergency Services Minister Andre Haermeyer and the state's top traffic policeman, acting Assistant Commissioner Bob Hastings, could not say how many fines a motorist would receive for repeated breaches of the speed limit on a single journey.

hmm, as usual - of course they are deceitful and covering up how they will actually be used, to the Victorian public. No proper consultation, no proper decision of the impact of whether an average speed actually makes a difference in a long journey, just money money money.

Mr Batchelor said 37 people had been killed and 827 injured on the Hume Highway in the past five years, and high speeds were a factor.

37 people killed in 5 years.. ok, i am sure a large number of the 827 were serious life affecting injuries as well, but still.. all this to save the lives of a few people who do not concentrate while driving. is it really worth saving the lives of a few idiots?

The cameras also take pictures of cars speeding past, as the existing fixed speed cameras do now. There will be a speed tolerance of 3kmh.

How much rubbish is that, not only do you have to make sure you're not creeping over 3km/hr driving around the city, now you have to ensure you're not doing it along the highway for 100's of km at a time. I mean serious what the hell do they think they're trying to achieve???

Does this extend into the NSW section? just need to know, as in a couple of months i'm going to be travelling up the Hume to get the hell out of Victoria.... and you know one of my reasons for leaving, driving in victoria is no longer enjoyable or relaxing thanks to steve bracks. I look forward to it, just being able to *relax* while driving, not stressing every 5 seconds looking at my speedo, making sure i'm sitting EXACTLY on 60km/hr or lower while going through every freakin traffic light, every damn street in melbourne

I can ride my pushbike faster than 50km/hr, its just ridiculous!

[Jimbo2000]

damn man i dont think we even have a 3k tolerance anywhere here, might be wrong though

[cul202]

if that happens in sydney i could see people going to lengths to distroy them...

considering that on roads i travel regularly the average speed of all the cars together, slow drivers included, would be more than 3km over the limit.

ahh the joys of revenue raising at the expense of the public.

[hippy]

start doing what they do in england .. smash the speed cameras .. the governement has basically passed a law which allows police to be money collectors for them.

[Rezz]

Thats it... I was going to move back to Melbourne. F*ck Victoria, the Police state... what a joke:shake:

Hello Sydney...

[akeenan]

oh god even though i dont drive in these areas this is becoming serious. wtf.

[cul202]

those cameras will be in a rural area... hellooo farmers with guns

[Mick Trainer]

I will be interested to see if this really happens. The technology they speak of at present does not exist. The press may not have writen it correctly but a computer cannot read the number plate and then determine if it neds to take your pic.

I know everyone was talking about this being on the western highway at one time or another but it never eventuated.

Mick.

[blind_elk]

Doesn't NSW have it for heavy transports?

The goivernment and police still have not answered the question - how does taking a photo of you speeding contribute in the slightest to saving you from yourself?

[cyco]

Yes, the technology -is- available, a computer can use motion detection, take a photo, use OCR to read the plate and determine average speed based on time taken between two points.

I'd heard on the grapevine they had this planned for the Easern Freeway also.

[Mick Trainer]

Cyro,

What is OCR?

NSW does have it for heavy transport but like city Link requires people to determine it. It requires pictures be taken of all trucks etc for someone to determine if it is the same truck and speed etc.

Mick.

[b0neR]

OCR = Optical Character Recognition

Shortish Article About it Here:

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,...i214132,00.html

[SupaFly Skyline]

They did somthing like this at the start of this year for Summernats. I read in the paper that a station wagon was set up on the way into town that had a camera in it that took photos of cars rego plates and searced Australia wide databases for any outstanding fines etc.. if a car was detected, the system would notify the group of cops waiting down the road. thats what they said happened, dunno if they're telling porkies?

[pentae]

Err, of course the technology exists.. when you go through a speed camera van and it takes your photo, the photos are taken back to a lab and the images are scanned automatically and your number plate is pulled out by a computer.. the fine is then issued.. I don't think a police officer is even involved in most instances, its all automatic.

Our Country contains more car enthusiasts than any other in the world, and it's government also makes more revenue from speeding offences per capita than any other Country in the world (that includes the USA)

Something needs to be done to stop revenue raising in the name of safety.

To Quote the article "Speed was a factor" .. Speed is a factor in ANY ACCIDENT according to a police report, because for an accident to happen two cars have to be travelling at a speed inappropriate for the accident to occur in the first place.

SPEEDING being a factor in an accident is not being above the speed limit, but an inappropriate speed for a given situation.

Aka TOTAL BULLSH*T.

[Mick Trainer]

Originally posted by pentae

Err, of course the technology exists.. when you go through a speed camera van and it takes your photo, the photos are taken back to a lab and the images are scanned automatically and your number plate is pulled out by a computer.. the fine is then issued.. I don't think a police officer is even involved in most instances, its all automatic.

This is not correct at present all photos are inspected by an actual human.

Mick.

[Duncan]

Mick, I'm almost certain that in NSW at least, ppl do *not* check the fine, it is issued automatically after OCR.

And there is average speed checking for heavy vehicles average speed in NSW, they are called "Saftey Camera" sites, on bridges all over the state and they calculate the average speed.

[Guest RedLineGTR]

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