A Little Help Please

[funkymonkey]

so this is your final decision? good on ya for seeing the light.

Has your new team of professionals (I'm assuming you've picked three new experts?) that are helping you with this build told you the differences between the HKS T51R and the Garett equivalent? You may find that although they may have the same compressor and exhaust housings etc, they'll spool differently due to internals. You'll also find that the "Garett equivalents" are built inhouse at a authorised reseller who's just going off specs, so just be weary that they may not have the research and development behind it as an HKS unit.

[MissR34]

i think i read somewhere (on sau) that the Garrett version is more responsive than the HKS version.? its things like this i wanna confirm.

[funkymonkey]

Most times a "Garett" brand turbo is put together by a distributor that deals with Garett. The formula for the turbos they put together can vary based on either what you request or what they believe is better.

[MissR34]

oh ok

what is the best way to determine what size turbine housing to go? what does this actually do?

[Cartman]

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[Guilt-Toy]

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[Liz]

what a waste of a thread

if you knew everything already, why start the thread in the first place?

good luck with your expensive paperweight.

[Liz]

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[Munkyb0y]

oh sorry i just walked in. i got lost on the way and ended up in 'supercharging my NA coz i wanna be different'

so is this the right place? am i now in 'modding like a true retard - 101'?

not sure though, coz it kinda looks like 'show ponies: how to announce plans to the world'

Edited May 21, 2009 by Munkyb0y

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

lol....

i dont really understand the point of a dyno queen car....

its like being a quadriplegic in a pimped wheelchair

[mad082]

ill be going RB25 top end with RB30 bottom end to help with torque.

yes it will be fully forged and ill be having custom cams made up aswell (the cost the same as buying ones of the shelf).

ill most likely to be using Martini Racing Fuel for dyno comps

if ive found the right information, the Garrett GT4594R is basically the same as the HKS T51R, so ill be going with the Garrett one. I just thought maybe some people on here have used that turbo, or know some more information about it? just in a general sense really.

i have my list of everything that i need to get (im always adding to it as i go tho). But cause i pretty much know SFA about turbos, and im willing to admit it, id just like a little help, but like you said i prob should have made it a bit clearer to begin with.

unlike yourself, id get more satisfaction sitting in a 500rwkw Skyline than what a guy could ever do for me and no, im not a lesbian.

and no, i dont have a boyfriend. and if i did, its love me, love my car or get F***d.!

don't want to be a wet blanket, but around the streets, your NA motor will probably feel faster than your turbo motor until you hit about 6000rpm when you start to make boost, at which time your tyres will instantly start spinning and you will end up spinning off the road into a tree. so while you might think you'll get more satisfaction from sitting in a 500kw skyline, the satisfaction will only come from sitting in it, not from driving it round the streets, because as was said earlier, you WILL get beaten off the lights by a hyundai excel, and left for dead by stock skylines and commodores due to your lag followed by uncontrollable wheelspin.

and i'm not joking about the NA feeling faster. i used to have a 180sx and a SSS pulsar at the same time. both sr20, one turbo, one natro. out of corners at low rpm the pulsar would pull away without any problems at all. once the 180sx started to come on boost it would slowly start catching up, but the pulsar was already well ahead. and with you putting on such a big turbo you are only going to make it take even longer to get power as it won't make any boost until high in the rev range. this will mean that going up steep hills you will find yourself dropping back gears because even with your foot planted to the floor you still don't have enough revs to make boost and give you any power.

as for just running lower boost round the streets, a big turbo at low boost will make less power than a smaller turbo at the same boost. and the smaller turbo will make boost sooner, so be better to drive and be faster.

oh and your car is a NA (GT) to start with, so doesn't that mean that all the brakes, etc, are smaller than on the GT-T? so i hope you are going to be upgrading that stuff too, otherwise when you do find a long enough stretch of road to open it up, you aren't going to stop once you get to the end of it.

[CEF11E]

what a useless waste of space this thread is.

you say a 500kw skyline can give you more satisfaction than ........ although you have never driven one.

not having a go at you and the sexist remarks aside, ask yourself why the hell you are doing what you are doing?

[Phobic]

this thread is amusing,

now she is going rb30 bottom end, and so the plans keep changing

[madbung]

ill most likely to be using Martini Racing Fuel for dyno comps

Cool all sorted then..

unlike yourself, id get more satisfaction sitting in a 500rwkw Skyline than what a guy could ever do for me and no, im not a lesbian.

and no, i dont have a boyfriend. and if i did, its love me, love my car or get F***d.!

So it's agreed, you need to change both of your rides?

It'll be interesting to see what you end up with, sell and start again I say.. Easier, cheaper, better resale...ect..ect

[Guilt-Toy]

and another thing.. this attention whore shit? it's a joke.. guilt toy is 100% correct and it's girls like you who prove him right.

you failed us, slapper

They say that blokes who do up cars are compensating for something.. So what is the girls excuse ? what are they lacking?

I believe it may stem from mental issues and they compensate for it by doing up cars in rediculous ways to get guys attention so they can feel better about themself ?

low self esteem issues or issues with family when in childhood ?? .. they do this to get approval ?!?

we need to get to the bottom of this! will answer a few questions I have been asking years about a few i know.

ps: don't any of you girls take this personaly.

[Cartman]

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Edited June 1, 2009 by PranK

[Brezza]

Miss R34

you should have just titled the thread about you supercharging your car to "give me attention"

and this one should've been "a little more attention please"

a few people here have given some good advice on whether the turbo will give the power you want, and what it will drive like from experienced people.

if you were actually serious on getting this work done then by all means have fun, its gonna cost big, i personally wouldnt bother cos i like using my car on the street, but hey, youre the one paying for it at the end of the day not me.

i look forward to the next thread, maybe "ive decided to keep the car N/A"

[mad082]

i think you are onto something with the self esteem bit. i don't think girls like this happy with themselves deep down, and may have possibly have had issues with a male person early in life, hence the "love me, love my car or get f**ked" type of attitude and the apparent need to be better than guys. these are usually the types that seem to never be able to find a guy that (by their super high standards) treats them right or isn't too controlling, etc, which is usually because of 2 things. 1: the type of guys they pick are the tough guys that suit the image they themselves are trying to portray (and they type of attitude that attracts the girl ends up being what causes the issues) and 2: they aren't willing to compromise. they want to do whatever they want and no one should stop them and if they don't like it they can leave, but then their partner can't do anything they (the girl) doesn't want them to do.

i know a few girls like this. unlike a normal person, whether they be male or female, who will accept their limitations, these girls will try to do everything to prove that they are just as good as anyone at everything. i know guys who won't work on their missus' car because if something goes wrong they get the blame for it even if they didn't touch it (for example lets say if he changed the oil and then the next week an intercooler pipe came loose, it would be his fault). some also won't accept help if they are trying to do something and can't get it to work. for example if she is working on the car and can't get a bolt undone because she isn't strong enough, if he tries to help she will go off at him.

as for the doing up cars in stupid ways bit, i think it is simply because they have such little knowledge on the matter and are trying to take such a big leap into it. you see guys doing very similar things, but they seem to get away with it a bit more as they are usualyl 16, LOL. guys get into cars a bit earlier so by the time they get to the stage of having their licence and then getting a decent car they already have a bit of a basic understanding. you could sort of compare it to how kids these days can hop on a computer and know their way round pretty well in a short amount of time, but if you get an old person on a computer they take much longer to get the hang of it. boys usually have things as a kid that they work on (even just things like changing the tyre on a bike) that sort of starts to gear their brain up to be a bit more accomodating.

another thing is that i think girls feel intimidated and feel like they are getting treated like they are stupid because they are female, not because they are infact doing something really stupid. they sort of view it as being sexist when it isn't, in the same way that a black guy that has just been caught red handed stealing something will start saying that the cops are racist and are always picking on him, not taking into account that they pick on him because he keeps breaking the law.

[Brezza]

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[Guilt-Toy]

i think you are onto something with the self esteem bit. i don't think girls like this happy with themselves deep down, and may have possibly have had issues with a male person early in life, hence the "love me, love my car or get f**ked" type of attitude and the apparent need to be better than guys. these are usually the types that seem to never be able to find a guy that (by their super high standards) treats them right or isn't too controlling, etc, which is usually because of 2 things. 1: the type of guys they pick are the tough guys that suit the image they themselves are trying to portray (and they type of attitude that attracts the girl ends up being what causes the issues) and 2: they aren't willing to compromise. they want to do whatever they want and no one should stop them and if they don't like it they can leave, but then their partner can't do anything they (the girl) doesn't want them to do.

i know a few girls like this. unlike a normal person, whether they be male or female, who will accept their limitations, these girls will try to do everything to prove that they are just as good as anyone at everything. i know guys who won't work on their missus' car because if something goes wrong they get the blame for it even if they didn't touch it (for example lets say if he changed the oil and then the next week an intercooler pipe came loose, it would be his fault). some also won't accept help if they are trying to do something and can't get it to work. for example if she is working on the car and can't get a bolt undone because she isn't strong enough, if he tries to help she will go off at him.

as for the doing up cars in stupid ways bit, i think it is simply because they have such little knowledge on the matter and are trying to take such a big leap into it. you see guys doing very similar things, but they seem to get away with it a bit more as they are usualyl 16, LOL. guys get into cars a bit earlier so by the time they get to the stage of having their licence and then getting a decent car they already have a bit of a basic understanding. you could sort of compare it to how kids these days can hop on a computer and know their way round pretty well in a short amount of time, but if you get an old person on a computer they take much longer to get the hang of it. boys usually have things as a kid that they work on (even just things like changing the tyre on a bike) that sort of starts to gear their brain up to be a bit more accomodating.

another thing is that i think girls feel intimidated and feel like they are getting treated like they are stupid because they are female, not because they are infact doing something really stupid. they sort of view it as being sexist when it isn't, in the same way that a black guy that has just been caught red handed stealing something will start saying that the cops are racist and are always picking on him, not taking into account that they pick on him because he keeps breaking the law.

Awesome post!!! Yes i think self esteem is the number one factor as well as the male relationships thing.