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Driven both.

260....awesome.....but will the woman like?....if she like a manual yes......only thing that stopped me is I new I was going to clock up K's and being a pre 2001 car I had to be realistic.

M35....have there problems but still a very good car.....perfect for every day use.

If I have had my choice again.....the 260.....just because I miss having a manual.

My missus loves driving mine, the clutch is a bit heavy but apart from that she loves it. Reckons its bit of a pain to park and yeah the front bumpers are very easily scraped etc, but other then that drive like any other manual wagon.

Fits the 10yr old and a baby seat in it fine.

If M35's where just a little bigger, or i could get a R35 front for one cheap then that would be the next car for the missus, but where going a new liberty.

or i could get a R35 front for one cheap then that would be the next car for the missus

What's wrong with the "Pokemon" or "Deer in the headlights" front end look! :bunny: I have to agree...butt ugly front end on the M35's.....my fellow M35 owners may disagree though.

Here comes the FlaK!!!!

Don't reckon that a Liberty is going to be any bigger than a M35...

Also, be prepared to lube up well for the Subaru dealer..

If M35's where just a little bigger, or i could get a R35 front for one cheap then that would be the next car for the missus, but where going a new liberty.
Don't reckon that a Liberty is going to be any bigger than a M35...

Also, be prepared to lube up well for the Subaru dealer..

On the outside their nearly the same, but on the inside their alot bigger and thats where we need it the most.

Yeah im prepared to be getting shafted by the stealer... Might lease one yet thru my work yet, works out a little cheaper.

Im not knocking M35's!! Just want something new.

My misses loves our 260RS. It's our only car and she drives it to work everyday. We've taken it camping, long road trips, squirts up Mt Nebo, city traffic and it's happy to do all of the above. No problems loading it with 4 adults and a boot full of camping gear. Personally I don't think it's quite a 'hard core race car' as people say it is. It's aggresive when you want it to be, but quite civilised for day to day driving. The suspension is firm, but quite comfortable. The interior is all good quality.

My only qualms with it is that it's too heavy. To be totally honest I wanted a GTR and I still feel a little ripped off by the added weight of the wagon (it guzzles fuel, too), but right now we can't afford 2 cars and the 260RS is a fantastic comprimise. I suggested to the wife that we get her something more fuel efficient and get me a GTR and she said she didn't think she could go back to anything slower. She certainly loves that car. I busted her in high boost the other day. She said 'the air was cold and the car was going well'. Hahaha

Oh yeah, we're both short arses (she's 153cm, I'm 163cm) and we have no problem with the seats. Must look like midgets in that massive car though...

the Autch S should be more of a comparpo with the 260rs than a M35

How so?

Just because it is a manual?

RWD, 3.5L N/A compared to AWD, 2.6L twin turbo.

Oh yeah, we're both short arses (she's 153cm, I'm 163cm) and we have no problem with the seats. Must look like midgets in that massive car though...

:D

My wife is 150cm. Looks outrageous when she drives my M35.

(thank goodness for electric height adjusting seats)

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My wife is 150cm. Looks outrageous when she drives my M35.

(thank goodness for electric height adjusting seats)

How's Ian and Steve though!!!....at full adjustment they still have to sit on a milk crate and use a pogo stick for brake and accelerator !!! :D

My only qualms with it is that it's too heavy. To be totally honest I wanted a GTR and I still feel a little ripped off by the added weight of the wagon (it guzzles fuel, too), but right now we can't afford 2 cars and the 260RS is a fantastic comprimise. I suggested to the wife that we get her something more fuel efficient and get me a GTR and she said she didn't think she could go back to anything slower. She certainly loves that car. I busted her in high boost the other day. She said 'the air was cold and the car was going well'. Hahaha

I've got a 260RS myself and when I first bought it I found it was a little heavy through acceleration, dragging on boost rather than flying through it I guess...... easy to understand when you factor in the extra weight of the wagon. Seeing your wife wont let you sell the car you could compromise with replacing a few under performing parts. I've not spent much more than 10K in buying parts for mine and am getting 400HP at the wheels, it doesn't feel heavy anymore.

I've got a 260RS myself and when I first bought it I found it was a little heavy through acceleration, dragging on boost rather than flying through it I guess...... easy to understand when you factor in the extra weight of the wagon. Seeing your wife wont let you sell the car you could compromise with replacing a few under performing parts. I've not spent much more than 10K in buying parts for mine and am getting 400HP at the wheels, it doesn't feel heavy anymore.

jump in a 400rwhp r32 and it will :)

so i drove an M35 AR-X on the weekend

pretty smooth ride, nice big boot

also had a look at (didn't get to drive) a 260RS but also just a WC34 RS Four

(we did also look at a Mitsubishi Legnum and Toyota Caldina, but the boot space was limited compared to a Stagea)

having sat in the 260RS, i think the wife would prefer the newer M35, but there was a blue WC34 that caught her eye a little

so now it looks like the short list is M35 AR-X vs. WC34 RS Four.

will need to do some more driving.

what's fuel consumption like on the VQ25 DET vs. RB25 DET Neo?

cheers

so i drove an M35 AR-X on the weekend

pretty smooth ride, nice big boot

note the AR-X obviously has different suspension to the RS/RX's but I'm not sure on how much difference that makes to how they each drive...

so now it looks like the short list is M35 AR-X vs. WC34 RS Four.

will need to do some more driving.

what's fuel consumption like on the VQ25 DET vs. RB25 DET Neo?

I used to own a 1999 stagea (series 2) and when it was stock, fuel economy was around the 13-14L/100km mark.

I now drive a 2003 M35 so I can very unscientifically compare them and say that I'm now averaging 12.5-13L/100km (same state, similar traffic).

Now for a general comparison - the M35 is a better car than the C34 in almost every way. Faster, more comfortable ride, slightly better on fuel, bigger fuel tank, more rear-seat legroom, one extra gear (5sp auto), more modern shape, better interior incl more comfortable seats, more boot space incl space under the boot floor.

I could keep going but I'm already sounding biased enough. Check out the first page of the "M35 Info" thread (sticky) at the top of the stagea section for more info on the M35.

The C34 is possibly more of a sports wagon and has more aftermarket/performance parts all readily available, whereas the M35 is more of a luxury wagon (although it is quicker as well) and a bit rarer.

As for which one you prefer, drive both. Thats the only way.

On the outside their nearly the same, but on the inside their alot bigger and thats where we need it the most.

Yeah im prepared to be getting shafted by the stealer... Might lease one yet thru my work yet, works out a little cheaper.

Im not knocking M35's!! Just want something new.

I disagree that the liberty is bigger. The boot shape on the M35 may be ugly and like a volvo but its practical and maximises the amount of space. Other wagons like the subaru's and the holden sportwagon lose a lot of boot space in the interest of styling.

Maybe there's more seating room? but the M35 is by no means cramped.

But yeah I like the subaru wagons - I just dont think they're as good value as the M35. The M35 can pretty much match it featurewise, with 3 main advantages - they're cheaper, have rear-biased awd, and a turbo. There's my bias showing through again :)

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