Jack- Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Got my car impounded last night for "drag racing", on bourke turning into russell st at a hook turn and I didn't make one and was in a convoy of cars so they class that as drag racing. Already lost my license before over a year ago, and the cops said I'd get a court summons. Has anyone been through this themselves or have any advice? and before you all start flaming, all I did was just not complete a hook turn, was under speed limit (they didnt get my speed anyway) so what to do? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
eMsta Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 might have to get a lawyer for this one - its your word against the cops Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURAUN Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 yeh and with a lose of licence already makes it harder Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWNU Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 As above, i would seek legal representation. Sorry to sound negative, but if the cop says you were drag racing, you were drag racing, at law the police officer is considered to be bona fide (acting in good faith, i.e they will not lie.) Kind of sucks because they do lie sometimes. If you could prove beyond reasonable doubt that it is impossible to drag race in that particular location, you may have a (slight) chance. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priestley Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 As mentioned above, speak to a solicitor. Don't just go to the local guy down the road either, make sure its a solicitor who deals specifically with traffic offences. Its a long shot, but you may be able to get surveillance camera footage from a nearby shop. If it shows that you weren't doing anything illegal it may help you. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adznight Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Got my car impounded last night for "drag racing", on bourke turning into russell st at a hook turn and I didn't make one and was in a convoy of cars so they class that as drag racing. Already lost my license before over a year ago, and the cops said I'd get a court summons.Has anyone been through this themselves or have any advice? and before you all start flaming, all I did was just not complete a hook turn, was under speed limit (they didnt get my speed anyway) so what to do? I think I saw this last night? Was it just near Billboard? About 11ish? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheezy Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 As mentioned above, speak to a solicitor. Don't just go to the local guy down the road either, make sure its a solicitor who deals specifically with traffic offences.Its a long shot, but you may be able to get surveillance camera footage from a nearby shop. If it shows that you weren't doing anything illegal it may help you. Top advice, I agree with that. Best of luck, that is a very un lucky break Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack- Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 I think I saw this last night? Was it just near Billboard? About 11ish? Im not sure where that is from where i was, just remember being outside a club x lol There was white 34 and grey-ish AU falcon.... and another car that took off.... we were all following eachother and all didnt complete a hook-turn and therefore cops said we were dragging :S weren't even going over 50km/h I don't really want a solicitor coz i dont have the money for that im studying at uni.... is legal aid any good? The cop was saying stuff like "if you trick ur other mate to come back, i'll go easy on you" and shit like that... I'm only 19 I dont fully know my rights and the cop was going off his head so I just denied dragging when he asked and thats about it.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GODZ1LLA Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Souns like he just had it in for who ever he caught and unluckily that was you... But like the others haver said if you can prove with unreasonable doubt that you were merely driving along, the you may have a chance of fighting it.. If not they will just look at your past track record and think the worse of you Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0rp3D Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Maybe try pm'ing R31nismoid i remember a while ago he mentioned that he used a lawyer that specialised in this sort of stuff coz he was a car nut as well, he was going to post the guys details but i never saw them. A mate got his car impounded about 12 months ago, he is on his p's as well, had to pay the fee to get his car out and when he went to court he got a big fine but was able to keep his license, he had a clear driving record tho, your 19 and have already lost your license once, not going to look good for you if you have nothing in your defence. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack- Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 I've only got a mate in the car, and the guys I were following who also got impounded.... I can't believe the cops can just do that coz "they reckon" it was dragging when it clearly wasn't.... I'm just shocked Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spunky Munky Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Mate, just remain calm. You must face it...you were hooning...not you have to face the consequences. I would go and speak to a solicitor asap...and await your summons...it should usually take 2-3 months to arrive so it won't happen this year by the sounds of things...also speak to the Police to see what are you rights concerning your car, i.e. how much would it cost to take home and what implications does this have on your police file? I would get as much information as I can. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter89 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 they have to prove you were actually racing and if your telling us the entire story, only going at 50ks isn't racing. you ll need some witnesses to back you up, best if they weren't in either of the cars. even better if you didn't personally know them. i suggest spending decent money on a lawyer, depending how much you value your license. unfortunately the road laws are really guilty until proven innocent and without a lawyer or witnesses, you're going to get screwed. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWNU Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 they have to prove you were actually racing and if your telling us the entire story, only going at 50ks isn't racing. you ll need some witnesses to back you up, best if they weren't in either of the cars. even better if you didn't personally know them. With all due respect, the above is utter nonsense. They do not have to literally prove you were racing, all they have to do is say they 'saw' you racing and as I said earlier it will be assumed that the police officer is bona fide. The onus/burden of proof is on YOU to prove that you were not (i.e you need to come up with mitigating circumstances.) Random witnesses will not help your cause, can you imagine how 'random' witnesses could be used to get you out of all sorts of trouble? Think about it and give the magistrate some credit. Oh, legal aid is better than nothing, but again, i would suggest you seek professional legal advice when the time comes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter89 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 With all due respect, the above is utter nonsense. They do not have to literally prove you were racing, all they have to do is say they 'saw' you racing and as I said earlier it will be assumed that the police officer is bona fide. The onus/burden of proof is on YOU to prove that you were not (i.e you need to come up with mitigating circumstances.) Random witnesses will not help your cause, can you imagine how 'random' witnesses could be used to get you out of all sorts of trouble? Think about it and give the magistrate some credit. Oh, legal aid is better than nothing, but again, i would suggest you seek professional legal advice when the time comes. by prove, that's what i meant, what cops say = fact, unless you can prove otherwise. plus, multiple people giving different statements then the police gave, would be far better then nothing. he needs every little advantage, since there aren't many. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
discern Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Don't bother reading opinions on forums, seek legal advice. Myself and others have used Michael Kuzilny in the past with favorable results. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0rp3D Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Don't bother reading opinions on forums, seek legal advice. Myself and others have used Michael Kuzilny in the past with favorable results. I have seen that guy on channel 31, judging by his brief history written there he wouldnt be cheap. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
33gtst Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 wtf done for dragging when not even traveling at 50kph...fark that, seems a little rough to me however you said there was a group of ppl as well, how is it only you got done for it? So if this is all it takes for an impound, what about all those ppl who pull into the ending lanes to "get in front of traffic"? What a complete load of fkn bs. Its about now I thank the son of rajab I'm a chick. G/l with it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alr33x Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 man that sucks so bad.. good luck with it, cops are been tough at the moment Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_the_man Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Mate, just remain calm. You must face it...you were hooning...not you have to face the consequences.I would go and speak to a solicitor asap...and await your summons...it should usually take 2-3 months to arrive so it won't happen this year by the sounds of things...also speak to the Police to see what are you rights concerning your car, i.e. how much would it cost to take home and what implications does this have on your police file? I would get as much information as I can. All this information is readily available on the internet. Do your homework and look up the relevant legislation and regulations. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/296216-car-impounded/#findComment-4936999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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