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Dammit, I'm ashamed to be German now :D

omg you ARE justin beiber.

Pat, most guys who get race cars prepped at the shop only swap to thermos when their radiators are too close, too far or at the wrong angle. Almost all of them prefer to run clutch fans, and the only thing that prevents em from doing so is restrictions imposed by rad. They dont choose a rad to suit the fan, ever.

Also, you guise, building an RB23 isn't that difficult or expensive. It can be done with factory parts out of an RB26 and a little bit of machining. Much simpler than an RB25 swap as you don't have to change the electricals or ancillaries, and most definitely much cheaper and easier than changing to an RB30.

Anyways...

anyone doin anything tonight? For once I have a free saturday.

Sure rb25 is the easy option, but if you havent noticed by now, i prefer to go against the norm and learn by doing (Toyota principle #12). Its when you explore uncertainties that you understand why it has/hasnt been done that way. My goal isnt to have maximum killerwasps, its to explore why/how modifications improve the car.

SIF

The HP gained by pissing off the clutch fan, is inadvertadly lost via the extra heat the thermo's cannot dissipate.

Cost vs gain - i don't see it.

I run around @ 67-71 degree's reasonable hard driving hard on the street/hill runs with just a Race Radiator item & factory clutch fan - none of this pussy idle business :D

See how you go with 15mins of solid 280rwkw heat and then come show me :D

HP gain is minimal when removing the clutch fan, but as you can see from the video, there is no problem with heat dissipation if you have a proper shroud/thermo setup. Many silvia/gtr trackcars have thermofan setups and have never heard them complaining about heat issues. Im not talking about slapping on thermo fans to the face of the radiator, that will achieve very bad results as its not pulling air through the whole face but only the section it is mounted on. Im not against the engine fan, but thermo fans are equal if not better in some aspects than engine fan

omg you ARE justin beiber.

Pat, most guys who get race cars prepped at the shop only swap to thermos when their radiators are too close, too far or at the wrong angle. Almost all of them prefer to run clutch fans, and the only thing that prevents em from doing so is restrictions imposed by rad. They dont choose a rad to suit the fan, ever.

Also, you guise, building an RB23 isn't that difficult or expensive. It can be done with factory parts out of an RB26 and a little bit of machining. Much simpler than an RB25 swap as you don't have to change the electricals or ancillaries, and most definitely much cheaper and easier than changing to an RB30.

Anyways...

anyone doin anything tonight? For once I have a free saturday.

Thermofans were purchased after trying to fit engine fan. Didnt want to cut up the fan/shroud as that will lose cooling ability, so thermofans were explored.

Rb22/23/24 are made up of gtr crankshaft, gtr pistons or 4agze pistons and machine work. A much more interesting project than dropping in a rb25. If i wanted one, i would have got a r33.

Fair enough to be different. But like ash said about cost vs gain you will still have a weaker engine that cost you more. Like that guy that put 250,000 grand into a Suzuki swift. Fair enough it's very different, but it couldn't keep up with a stock 180 lol

Fair enough to be different. But like ash said about cost vs gain you will still have a weaker engine that cost you more. Like that guy that put 250,000 grand into a Suzuki swift. Fair enough it's very different, but it couldn't keep up with a stock 180 lol

haha where is that suzuki video with the drag bar. My engine hasnt blown yet so this is still all talk :D

omg you ARE justin beiber.

Pat, most guys who get race cars prepped at the shop only swap to thermos when their radiators are too close, too far or at the wrong angle. Almost all of them prefer to run clutch fans, and the only thing that prevents em from doing so is restrictions imposed by rad. They dont choose a rad to suit the fan, ever.

Also, you guise, building an RB23 isn't that difficult or expensive. It can be done with factory parts out of an RB26 and a little bit of machining. Much simpler than an RB25 swap as you don't have to change the electricals or ancillaries, and most definitely much cheaper and easier than changing to an RB30.

Anyways...

anyone doin anything tonight? For once I have a free saturday.

Man, I have been waiting on a Pizza meet, a Kebab meet, a BBQ meet or any other meet you said you would look into organising :D

Would have been up for a meet up tonight but I gotta head out to dinner then the Arthouse and watch some bands...

But I ain't a fan of any of the bands playing as a few friends wanted to go see after dinner.

Might bail on the bands after dinner but see how I go...

:D

Had another poker night with the footy boys...Just continued my form from the last 4 tournaments of going out one place out of the money, with the best hand I had all night.

Tonight was pocket kings, short stacked against the other 2 remaining...All in after the flop which was 10 something something, 3-4:1 chip leader calls me with AK, turn is no help. river is an ace.

Last time I went out in 4th (paying top 3) with a full book Aces and 3's, went all in, lost on the river to a full book Aces and 9's...

had a poker night/football eatching with some mates.

f**kin ref. f**kin kewell.

haha im catching all the action from work.. :cool:

in teh spur of the moment the handball looked unintentional but in slow-mo you can sorta lean it both ways.. if it wasn't cahills interseption they'd have scored anyawy.. imo ghana played better and probably deserved to win more so than aus so a draw isn't so bad.

cameroon - denmark game is a good watch.. :D

so is a tackle from behind yet the Ghanan only got a yellow. Was far from a friendly match.

typical african playing style. very rough and gets away with it

tonight should be a good night. italy, paraguay and those wankers brazil are playing

praying brazil loses

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