Noltec Style Front Camber / Control Arms For R32

[SimonR32]

Hey guys,

I have been looking for front camber adjustment for my R32 Gts-t. I have a whiteline offset bush set sitting at home ready to be installed but having doubts regarding the reliability/wear of the items (I don't want to have to go changing them every few months).

Have been looking for other options, the UAS pivoting arms look nice but at $595 they are way too overpriced for my taste. Also had my eyes on the old Noltec style (see pic below) arms but can't seem for love or money to find anyone who sells them or even a similar product. Anyone got any suggestions on where to look?

Cheers

Simon

[Beer Baron]

unfortunately I'm pretty sure they are discontinued now. they are for sure the best type out there. very good value, no play, reliable and last forever.

you might be able to hunt down some second hand ones though.

[bigmikespec]

Silk Road...

http://translate.google.com.au/translate?h...en%26safe%3Doff

Edited June 29, 2010 by bigmikespec

[-Jimmy-]

Phwoar I just scored myself a set of those genuine Noltec adjustable control arms for my R32 last week on ebay. Barely used for only $180

Been looking for a while. The guy said he paid $445.00 for them when they were new.

Looks like a I got a bargain. Very good to hear that they are the best type out there. I was never going to waste my money on the ebay china ones.

Good luck on the hunt mate. The Silkroad ones look good (they are a trusty Japanese brand, I use their coilovers) however a pair of those will cost you $500AUD+ easy.

Edit: Yet to fit them but when I do (in the next week) I'll let you know how they go.

Edited June 29, 2010 by -Jimmy-

[Duncan]

the UAS ones may look expensive, but they are a step above in quality compared to pretty much any other option.

these are the upper arms out of my race car, demonstrating why the pivoting arms are important

[Deano 1]

what about the tomie ones that are a set camber? you buy em say + or - 5-10-15mm or deg or what ever it is?

[SimonR32]

what about the tomie ones that are a set camber? you buy em say + or - 5-10-15mm or deg or what ever it is?

I think you mean Cusco... they would be fine but I want adjustment!

[SimonR32]

the UAS ones may look expensive, but they are a step above in quality compared to pretty much any other option.

these are the upper arms out of my race car, demonstrating why the pivoting arms are important

Damn you for posting that picture!

Another group buy on the pivoting arms, extra $200 mark up is just taking the piss

Edited June 29, 2010 by SimonR32

[Deano 1]

id be keen on a group buy on a decent set its the only part on my car thats not adjustable. i no other guy that would be keen too.

[Duncan]

ahh and I go thru 2 sets of upper arms a year too....I am not allowed to change from standard style to pivoting.

[Deano 1]

just seen these

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Adjustable-Front-Up...=item1e5cbd4abd

Junk??

[Duncan]

not the same...cheap bearings and they don't pivot (although it looks like it, that is just the adjuster).

[THENIG]

OUCH!! What happened? did the bolt snap or did the bushes collapse?

Are those bushes shown in that picture the same kit as this?

I just bought this kit from Repco for $130 trade, was going to fit it in the next couple of weeks.

Are you saying that they are no good?

the UAS ones may look expensive, but they are a step above in quality compared to pretty much any other option.

these are the upper arms out of my race car, demonstrating why the pivoting arms are important

[djr81]

OUCH!! What happened? did the bolt snap or did the bushes collapse?

Are those bushes shown in that picture the same kit as this?

I just bought this kit from Repco for $130 trade, was going to fit it in the next couple of weeks.

Are you saying that they are no good?

It depends what you use them for, how much castor you run and what ride height you run.

I have done a similar, if less dramatic thing to that style of bush in one track day. Basically the rear outer upper bush gets flogged out quickly. The solution I came up with was to use a harder bush in that position. Not had any trouble since.

The compliance in the suspension is mostly in the castor rod. So if you run a castor rod without decent compliance and that style of bush kit you will be in line for an issue - IMHO anyway.

Duncan's case is probably worse because he has to run stock rubbbish on a race car. Here the only workaround it to modify the attachment points of the inner arm at the bracket - this allows the arm to rotate. Which is pretty ugly.

Also if you look at the Cusco fixed length arms they have (in plan view) a bigger offset. Something like 22mm instead of approx 15mm stock. This means less castor & presumably less load on the bearings that the Cusco arm uses.

[SimonR32]

It depends what you use them for, how much castor you run and what ride height you run.

I have done a similar, if less dramatic thing to that style of bush in one track day. Basically the rear outer upper bush gets flogged out quickly. The solution I came up with was to use a harder bush in that position. Not had any trouble since.

The compliance in the suspension is mostly in the castor rod. So if you run a castor rod without decent compliance and that style of bush kit you will be in line for an issue - IMHO anyway.

Duncan's case is probably worse because he has to run stock rubbbish on a race car. Here the only workaround it to modify the attachment points of the inner arm at the bracket - this allows the arm to rotate. Which is pretty ugly.

Also if you look at the Cusco fixed length arms they have (in plan view) a bigger offset. Something like 22mm instead of approx 15mm stock. This means less castor & presumably less load on the bearings that the Cusco arm uses.

Interesting points... I've got kazama castor rods so they should have little to no play! When you said you used different bushes on the outer rear, want to help us out with some more info?

[djr81]

Interesting points... I've got kazama castor rods so they should have little to no play! When you said you used different bushes on the outer rear, want to help us out with some more info?

Well there isn't much more info. I took a bush, measured it up & then went down to a local plastics machine shop and asked them directly what can you make this out of - it is for a car suspension bush and needs to be stiffer than this stuffed one? For the price of a carton of beer I got a couple of bushes - I am not 100% sure what they are. The key bit is they need to be sitffer than the stock ones so they don't get "pinched" by the arm.

The other solution to all this is buy the Nismo suspension link kit.

[Deano 1]

info on the nismo suspension link kit?

[SimonR32]

Well there isn't much more info. I took a bush, measured it up & then went down to a local plastics machine shop and asked them directly what can you make this out of - it is for a car suspension bush and needs to be stiffer than this stuffed one? For the price of a carton of beer I got a couple of bushes - I am not 100% sure what they are. The key bit is they need to be sitffer than the stock ones so they don't get "pinched" by the arm.

The other solution to all this is buy the Nismo suspension link kit.

Haha, dam that sucks... I'm still 50/50 on installing the whiteline gear because i'm planning on hitting the track a bit and don't want to waste my money if they are going to shag out straight away

[skylinegtts]

hey duncan,

was wondering what type of adjustable bushes they are?

and whether they are adjustable with the arms in the car. i ask because ive read that a few of the caster rod bushes require the arm to be taken off so im not sure if those manufacturers have designed the other bushes the same way.

going bushes to stay compliant with general racing rules and regs.

[T04GTR]

unless you have everthing stock. ie camber, caster, ride height the bushes will flog out... if anything is changed the upright wants to tilt off the original axis and twist a couple of degrees.

the midori style arms work for a while but because of the twisting motion they always come loose and eventualy the thread will gall up ans make a creeking noise.

the uas ones are more expensive but do not bind and are very easy to adjust.

i have replaced many adjustable arms, noltec and all the differant adjustable bushes. (my grubby hand in duncans pic) for some reason the light blue bushes in the sliding arms turn to powder.

and for the record each uas arm is hand assembled to matching components to ensure reliability and function. this takes some time to do hence the extra cost.