Rb30det Legally Allowed In A R33 In Vic?

[kwickr33]

A mate's offering a forgied rebuild Rb30det engine out of a VL for cheap. I'm wondering if I'm allowed to fit that into a R33 without engineering certificate in Melbourne. Any information would be great. Cheers.

[The Dan]

Engine change requires certificate

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

does it look like a built 30det?

[R31Nismoid]

A RB30DET was a motor never offered by Nissan, it is illegal until tested... The test costs 3k, and if you fail that's it.

So clearly it will never be legal either

[The Dan]

A RB30DET was a motor never offered by Nissan, it is illegal until tested... The test costs 3k, and if you fail that's it.

So clearly it will never be legal either

I don't know that the cylinder head effects the eligibility of it for compliance. The block is made by Nissan and all factory mounting positions are maintained. The do the same with V8's....HQ 308's never came with alloy heads but if you put one of those engines into a different car, they are still able to be certified regardless of cylinder head.

Honda is another example with the KA20? with 24 cylinder head or something. Pretty sure it's cylinder block related

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

it will need a cert

simple - any change to a motor that isnt factory = cert

[Count Grantleyish]

I don't know that the cylinder head effects the eligibility of it for compliance. The block is made by Nissan and all factory mounting positions are maintained. The do the same with V8's....HQ 308's never came with alloy heads but if you put one of those engines into a different car, they are still able to be certified regardless of cylinder head.

Honda is another example with the KA20? with 24 cylinder head or something. Pretty sure it's cylinder block related

Apparently changing heads from single cam to twin hurts the environment according to Victoria EPA.

In eyes of EPA in Victoria, twin cam RB30 doesn't exist thus the need for emission testing.

[jjskyline79]

A RB30DET was a motor never offered by Nissan, it is illegal until tested... The test costs 3k, and if you fail that's it.

So clearly it will never be legal either

surly you wouldn't just roll up and ask for a cert? You would do some home work at least right?? There's always loop holes.

If you were to do something along those lines your be finding an engineer and Maybe for argument sake paying a few hundred extra to find out what can and can't be done and working with them.

It carnt be impossable you just have to make it save and pass the tests ect and if your wallets deep enough and you want an rb30 in your r33 then I'm sure it can be done!!

Personally I can think of much better things to spend to money on but hay ho

[Count Grantleyish]

The reason no one bothered is as Ash pointed out the emission testing cost $3k, if you fail thats it.

If you want legally to have RB30DET, move to another state.

[R31Nismoid]

surly you wouldn't just roll up and ask for a cert? You would do some home work at least right?? There's always loop holes.

If you were to do something along those lines your be finding an engineer and Maybe for argument sake paying a few hundred extra to find out what can and can't be done and working with them.

It carnt be impossable you just have to make it save and pass the tests ect and if your wallets deep enough and you want an rb30 in your r33 then I'm sure it can be done!!

Personally I can think of much better things to spend to money on but hay ho

Well not really.

You have to basically go through the entire ADR emissions testing for Vic. It's not like NSW where you can just get a quick test and off you go (where you can get it pre-tested).

The equipment is not cheap, so for a "pre test" you'd probably be looking at close to the 3k anyway.

Its quite involved and it's not just 5mins on a dyno. It's the full testing in closed conditions for 20mins, road testing and whatever else goes on as part of ADR certifications for emissions standards...

Basically forget it in Vic for 100% legal is the theme here.

Dan - Ye to an extent, but they class it as 3ltr and SOHC falling into one emissions setpoint as a factory motor.

The motor you are making is not a factory offering, therefore there is no emissions data available to reference off. If Nissan made a RB30DET - you'd be sweet

[JonnoHR31]

tommy kaira made one factory? n they put it in a nissan

[kwickr33]

Stuff all that crap. I'll just buff out his engine No. and stamp in my currently engine Number. Thanks guys.

[ARTZ]

Stuff all that crap. I'll just buff out his engine No. and stamp in my currently engine Number. Thanks guys.

Hahaha..........Thats the spirit

[The Dan]

I guess I've lived in sunny lax laws QLD for too long ..... oh wait, no I haven't sux2Buguys!!!

[Rolls]

Stuff all that crap. I'll just buff out his engine No. and stamp in my currently engine Number. Thanks guys.

It's that easy?

[The Dan]

It's that easy?

If by easy you mean HIGHLY ILLEGAL? Yes

[Birds]

Stuff all that crap. I'll just buff out his engine No. and stamp in my currently engine Number. Thanks guys.

X stamp the hell out of the old number first, then put new number on top. If they get that thing under X ray you'll be in more trouble than just a defect...numbers go right through the metal past what the eyes can see

[bozodos]

or you could just put the motor in another VL where it would be a numbers matching motor

for some reason my R32 was registered in NSW with an RB25DET, and VicRoads had no probs when I changed it over? perhaps do it that way LOL

[tridentt150v]

if its ever been registered in another state then crack dumb and say you purchased it as a 25 and never realised and was never told it wasn't.

[discopotato03]

What do you think it would cost to make up a spacer plate , fit it to the block and bore the "sandwich" for thin walled liners ? Paint the block keep your number and claim the 5th if questioned .

In with the 30 crank/rods/pistons and have a real torquey "RB25DET" .

Don't they all roll off the boat looking like that ?

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