M35 Stagea Dimensions For Lpg

[iamhe77]

Gah...apparently the car wasn't ready this Arvo. I only found out when I was halfway there on the train and rang them up. Apparently they can't get the fuel mixture right so its going on the dyno tomorrow...they better not charge me extra!! They want my new Denso plugs too...that means I need another set for the tune in 2 weeks time?

why?

If you are referring to the IKH22 iridium plugs, well they are longer lasting than platinum plugs and provide a superior spark. No chance they will need replacing in 2 weeks.

Unless they are heavily fouled or damaged somehow.

[ironpaw]

Will they get fouled on the dyno?

Anyway since I'm going to be putting in larger injectors before the tune, they new plugs might get fouled then since the car will not be running the correct fuel mixture...until its on Cihan's dyno.

I'll get another set just in case...

[Sunkist]

nah they wont man. Cihan will just rev it out after leaning the mixture. it should clean the plugs like it did mine.

the only reason mine are failing is because they are a 1.1mm.. you shouldnt have an issue.

[ironpaw]

ok so to confirm - new plugs being put in today and it gets put on the Dyno for the LPG guys to tune the mixture correctly.

Then these plugs will still be good even after installing 610's for the 2nd tune...

Sweet.

[Sunkist]

yeh they should be good.

just remember when the 610's are installed, you need to get Cihan to install the eManage at the same time or car wont start buddy.

[Sage222]

i dont understand.. there is nothing to tune with these gas setups.. they use the factory ECU nothing more.. the only adjustment is the nozzle on the gas injectors.. (i could be wrong though i dont think so).. though i guess they might need to put it on the dyno to confirm the nozzle sizes..

btw make sure you get a power run too one on gas and one on petrol!

[ironpaw]

Yeah I dunno, I'm scared if I ask for it they'll charge me for the extra shit they're doing now to get it going....

Plus I'm getting airflow cut @ 4k rpm so it won't be doing any power run lol...

[Sunkist]

you were quoted right?

if its a quote, its a quote. u gave them the job, give them cash n are expected to do a good job.

[ironpaw]

you were quoted right?

if its a quote, its a quote. u gave them the job, give them cash n are expected to do a good job.

yeah I was quoted $4700 same as Sage222. Haven't paid yet but what's to stop the bastards from saying "oh we had to do this and this so here's the bill"...u know typical mechanics LOL

[Sunkist]

quotes a quote. if you have it in writing then thats it.

if anything else has to be done you should be notified of what why and how much before its done.

other wise consumer affairs.

[scotty nm35]

The gas injectors run off the pulse from the stock injector, they are set for X milliseconds. If you run a larger injector you may need to recalibrate thre gas system as the pulse would have to be half as long and perhaps the jet twice as big. It would have been better to do the gas afterward I think.

How difficult is it going to be for me to change the injectors over ironpaw? Are the gas ones going to get in the way?

[iamhe77]

quotes a quote. if you have it in writing then thats it.

The gas injectors run off the pulse from the stock injector, they are set for X milliseconds. If you run a larger injector you may need to recalibrate thre gas system as the pulse would have to be half as long and perhaps the jet twice as big. It would have been better to do the gas afterward I think.

How difficult is it going to be for me to change the injectors over ironpaw? Are the gas ones going to get in the way?

lol... looks like Scotty's quote just went up

[ironpaw]

Not sure...hope not

hmm maybe your right...but either way the car's gotta go back to either Cihan or the gas place...

We'll see this arvo *fingers crossed*

[ironpaw]

GODDAMMIT. They did it again.

Rang them @ 3pm. They said car will be ready in an hour.

I hop on the train to Frankston. 1/2 way there they call me and say "hmmm we need more dyno time to fine tune it blah blah blah, come get the car tomorrow..."

FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They also said they'll be doing more dyno time on a 4wd dyno...I told them before that its a 4wd car....and yet they stick it on a rwd dyno?

I better get my car back tomorrow...

[scotty nm35]

I hope you aren't paying for their incompetence... Tell them not to bother and you will bring it back after the tune for a touch up? Or just ask them how they are tuning the mixtures and Cihan can do it on his dyno.

[ironpaw]

I think they are still trying to find the best gas jets to fit...something that cihan can't do unfortunately...

[Sunkist]

Sound like a pack of douches

[Sage222]

that aint good mate. they had my car 4 days.. they were always very good with me mate and even though they took much longer with my car than they thought they still charged me what they quoted.

granted i wouldnt want to be f*kt around too.. tho ill take the guy saying its ready then saying its not 100 times over rather than get my car back and find out it isnt right..

[Sunkist]

did you get your car yet?

[ironpaw]

yeah just came home from Frankston. Car runs great - its a pretty neat install. ASked about upgrading petrol injectors and he said you just need to unbolt the fuel rail and move the gas jets out of the way.

Ended up paying the original price of $4700 - no mention of extra $$$ needed at all. Pretty happy in that regards. This includes getting my Denso plugs installed for free...lol

Original spark plugs didn't look like they were covered in oil...and the guy who changed them didnt recall oil in the plug holes...so I guess thats a plus. Are the OEM plugs NGK?

performance wise I can't tell a difference...will need to get it on a dyno and see. There's a button to press to switch it from petrol to gas so that'll be handy. Also with the auto switch over when gas runs out - it'll beep for 5 seconds before the switch takes place...

Scott will get a good look at it tomorrow