New Lap Record At Bathurst

[evil_weevil]

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....0/2010.MOUN.P12

[sh@un]

get back to me if someone ever beats the R32 GT-Rs outright race record

[Neil]

Very quick lap,,,but it was done in practice,,,so I don't think it counts.

Top Ten in the Shoot out tomorrow arvo

1 14 Trading Post Racing Jason Bright Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 11 2:07.0002*

2 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Holden Commodore VE 5000 10 9 2:07.0069 0:00.0067

3 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore VE 5000 9 2 2:07.3663 0:00.3661

4 5 Orrcon Steel FPR Falcon Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 5000 13 12 2:07.4526 0:00.4524

5 33 Fujitsu Racing / GRM Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 5000 13 12 2:07.4687 0:00.4685

6 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 5000 13 10 2:07.7278 0:00.7276

7 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 11 2:07.7375 0:00.7373

8 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 10 2:07.7899 0:00.7897

9 51 Castrol Edge Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 5000 14 14 2:07.8646 0:00.8644

10 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Paul Dumbrell Ford Falcon FG 5000 12 10 2:07.8717 0:00.8715

Go Frosty

Cheers

Neil.

[zebra]

get back to me if someone ever beats the R32 GT-Rs outright race record

If they had saftey cars like they did back in 91 they would have beaten it 10 years ago.

[Roy]

Yeh, i hazard a guess that the race pace is at least 4 seconds per lap quicker these days, with no tyre war

[Marlin]

Too right.

Can't take anything away from these cars though, as much as I hate the formula. My word they're fast considering what they are.... heavy, under tyred, shit aero etc....

[Neil]

I'll be keeping a eye on the GT cars,,,. Stuffed if I know why they can't have a longer race,,,I know,,,piss the utes off and let the GT's have a 2 hour enduro.

I noticed Tony Alford ran around on Thursday in the 35 in P1 but nothing after that. Wonder why?.

Cheers

Neil.

[zebra]

I agree Neil, The utes shit me, give proper race cars a run, they need to bring back the 3 hour event they had when the like of Bowe and Stokel were running around in Ferrari and Lambos. That was fun to watch.

[Duncan]

Very quick lap,,,but it was done in practice,,,so I don't think it counts.

agreed....but since murphy's lap was in qualifying not racing it doesn't count as a lap record either.

nothing can ever take away from murphy's lap, it was done years of development ago and stood for ages. amazing.

[zebra]

And he missed a gear at the elbow (I think), if you watch the lap he gets 1st gear not 3rd, so couldve been quicker still

[Neil]

Well actually Murphs time was done in the top 10 shoot out,,,from memory he beat John Bowe much to the dis-like of the Ford fans (Mel and I were there) and Qual times do stand.

It's very disappointing that the GT cars which are real endurance cars only get to play on Saturday with 2 x 30 minute races.

Cheers

Neil.

[Duncan]

GT are lucky to get 2x 30min races with cockrane handing out the session times. there are no holdens nor fords in that field so they are lucky to be there at all.

Tony's perfect Bathurst event:

Supertaxi 1000

konica supertaxi race

muscle car support race (group A and C cars stay home, minis not welcome in case they win)

saloon car support race

aussie race cars (aurion not welcome)

commodore cup if a 5th category is required.

what a pity for him that Fraud and Holdem aren't willing to put up millions a year for his circus any more.

[zebra]

Indeed Dunc, I hate to see what the "car o the future" looks and performs like.

[Neil]

I hate to see what the "car o the future" looks and performs like.

Oh,,,won't that be great,,,Nascar style cars running around on shit narrow street tracks. Shit I can't wait.

Take most of the aero out of them and make these robot drivers,,,DRIVE....

Cheers and thanks Cockren and Skaifie.

Neil.

[hrd-hr30]

Too right.

Can't take anything away from these cars though, as much as I hate the formula. My word they're fast considering what they are.... heavy, under tyred, shit aero etc....

11" slicks (280/680R17) doesn't count as undertyred in my book! They've been bleating about it long enough to convince people its small though...

they are faster than they should be on paper though. I guess that's what ~20 years of chassis and shock development money buys you... oh, and the best drivers in the country doesn't hurt either

[BezerkR32]

sh$t, your completely right, i was under the impression the tyres were a lot narrower than that.

they still weigh around the 1200kg is that correct?

11" slicks (280/680R17) doesn't count as undertyred in my book! They've been bleating about it long enough to convince people its small though...

they are faster than they should be on paper though. I guess that's what ~20 years of chassis and shock development money buys you... oh, and the best drivers in the country doesn't hurt either

[Roy]

1350kg last time i paid attention. Its only a 17" tyre so it is also about diam, not just width as the larger rolling diameter often allows the temperatures to be more stable meaning they can run grippier compounds

[Marlin]

I was under the impression they were 10" tyres..... bloody wrong again!

[mad082]

agreed....but since murphy's lap was in qualifying not racing it doesn't count as a lap record either.

nothing can ever take away from murphy's lap, it was done years of development ago and stood for ages. amazing.

murphy's lap was also done when the engines had a much shorter shelf life so they could beef them right up and it didn't matter if they only lasted one race. the current cars have been tuned down to make the engine last more than one race, like F1. if you look at a majority of the lap records in F1 you will see that they were set back in 2004 and 2005 (about 8 of the records are).

sh$t, your completely right, i was under the impression the tyres were a lot narrower than that.

they still weigh around the 1200kg is that correct?

i thought they weigh 1450kg

edit: my bad, 1355kg

[mad082]

official specs

VEHICLE Holden Racing Team Commodore VE

ENGINE Holden Motorsport 5.0 litre fuel injected V8. Holden Racing Team developed cylinder

heads, fuel injection, intake and exhaust system. Category control MoTec engine

management control system.

POWER Estimated 635 + bhp limited to maximum 7,500 RPM

GEARBOX 6-speed Holinger gearbox – Australian made

DIFFERENTIAL Motive 9 inch

CLUTCH AP Racing triple plate carbon 7 1/4 inch

SUSPENSION Front Holden Racing Team developed double wishbone designed for racing with

adjustable camber. Cockpit adjustable front roll bar.

Rear Holden Racing Team developed. Location by four-link parallel arms and Watts

link. Cockpit adjustable rear anti roll bar.

BRAKES Front Alcon 6 Piston Monobloc Caliper with removable bridge bar 375mm ventilated discs

Rear Alcon 4 Piston Monobloc Caliper 343mm ventilated disc

WHEELS O.Z wheels 17 inch by 11-inch magnesium alloy

TYRES Dunlop control tyre

FUEL CAPA CITY 120 Litre

VEHICLE WEIGHT 1355kg (category minimum without Driver)