Best P-plater Motorsport Car.

[N1GTR]

haha yea, and he missed 2

wash car every now and then

and change oil when the bar shows its dark

Hahaha

[iseekool]

i would think a brake upgrade should be a bit higher up the list :\

EDIT: 2,000 posts!

Yeh would be - but the GT-V runs the large stock GTt brakes whick are upto the task. A set of good brake pads is a must.

I'm trying to keep the budget small

[GTS4WD]

I think one major thing that everyone has forgotten about motorsport cars:

Fast

Cheap

Reliable

Pick two.. you can have all of them..

Bear in mind alot of the cars mentioned are getting very old and likely thrashed within an inch of their lives. Its best to gt a car that hasn't been in the hands of several P platers already.. you will spend all your time and money working on it, rather than driving it.

Find an MX5 1.8L from an old fat bawld man who has woken up from their middle age crisis and is selling his MX5.

Find a BMW E30 that has been in the family for ages but rarely driven.

EK/EG honda

SSS Pulsar - Look up SR16VE N1 - and buy one!.. then drop in an SR20VET out of the Jap spec Xtrail.

[mad082]

or just a SSS pulsar with a sr20ve conversion in it (easier than trying to find a N1 VZR), or just a standard VZR pulsar. even with the standard sr20de in the the SSS pulsars go well. just put on a set of extractors and a decent exhaust and they rev out nicely. a set of sway bars to make them handle better (make it get a bit of lift off oversteer) and a decent set of brakepads. there are also a few good brake upgrades for them too.

[iseekool]

I think one major thing that everyone has forgotten about motorsport cars:

Fast

Cheap

Reliable

Pick two.. you can have all of them..

Bear in mind alot of the cars mentioned are getting very old and likely thrashed within an inch of their lives. Its best to gt a car that hasn't been in the hands of several P platers already.. you will spend all your time and money working on it, rather than driving it.

Find an MX5 1.8L from an old fat bawld man who has woken up from their middle age crisis and is selling his MX5.

Find a BMW E30 that has been in the family for ages but rarely driven.

EK/EG honda

SSS Pulsar - Look up SR16VE N1 - and buy one!.. then drop in an SR20VET out of the Jap spec Xtrail.

IMHO - I'd try to stay clear of european cars - they would be quite pricey to service considering the target market are P platers this "could" pose an issue of expensive running cost.

Mk IV - Supra SZ-R would be nice:

- It has a 6 speed getrag manual

- n/a

- LSD

- Big brakes

[zebra]

Only thing wrong with that is for not much more money you could have the RZ and just drive it at the track until you are off the P's

[Bunta]

KE70 with a 20V, that should just get in under budget right?

[Ten Four]

I didnt say mx5 or s13 cause the op said power... lolz

Monetary figure is important here... Best bet is R32/R33/R34 RB25DE or a NA Supra if you wanted to bring common sense into the equation...

Edited October 13, 2010 by Ten Four

[zebra]

MX5 will be quicker than 99% of the NA skylines and supras around a track.

killerwasps aren't everything

[Deano 1]

id go a KE or even condsider a Honda civic they go hard with abit of work....

[GTS4WD]

IMHO - I'd try to stay clear of european cars - they would be quite pricey to service considering the target market are P platers this "could" pose an issue of expensive running cost.

Id be thinking if your building a car for the track, you can service it yourself..

[mad082]

Id be thinking if your building a car for the track, you can service it yourself..

unless you are going to make the parts yourself it is still going to be more expensive to service.

if you want to get picky, a lot of cars would get ruled out simply on the basis that you aren't supposed to have engine mods on your P plates so that pretty much rules out any suggestion has a engine transplant.

[iseekool]

The whole point of the topic it has to be P plate legal - having engine swaps or major engine upgrades like that are not allowed on P plate restrictions.

KE70 with a 4age will be ok too - but not sure about the legalities for a P plater.

[iseekool]

*puts on flame suit*

If it comes to power and budget.

How about a V6 manual VS acclaim (it has IRS compared to the basic commodore).

- external oil cooler

- larger radiator

- Plenum spacer

- High flow filter and zorst

- Suspension upgrade

- Bigger brakes from the VT

- slicks/semi slicks

- LSD

- Lower geared diff for faster accel.

- Some form of body brace/cage - the VB to VS bodies suffer from flexing

[Ten Four]

MX5 will be quicker than 99% of the NA skylines and supras around a track.

killerwasps aren't everything

Stock for stock?

Highly doubt it on a track, unless we're talking about some track without straights.. FWIW, NA 6 speed JZA80s can manage 0-100 in 6secs.

Edited October 13, 2010 by Ten Four

[zebra]

Yeah stock for stock, the MX5 doesnt give away all that much grunt and is 500Kg lighter, the skyline might be a bit quicker in a straight line but will lose through the corners.

[bozodos]

lol silly flamin mongrels.

If you're seriously going to track it, get a dedicated track car, and a VN daily or something, and not have to worry about spending a gagillion dollars to go fast, or about driving a fagmobile.

Could always get a Datto of some sort and hot it up, 1200's are worth a fortune for what they are, but go fast parts are cheap if you do it all yourself

[Bunta]

Stock for stock?

Highly doubt it on a track, unless we're talking about some track without straights.. FWIW, NA 6 speed JZA80s can manage 0-100 in 6secs.

a supra might have more power but it is also in a platform that has failed and failed again and that is from my experience at QR which is one of the more favourable tracks in aus for a car that is all power no handling

[DR 32R]

serious suggestion is ae86 Corolla. Small agile etc. Left field suggestion is Aussie r31, skyline cheap to buy find parts for etc

[SKiT_R31]

*puts on flame suit*

If it comes to power and budget.

How about a V6 manual VS acclaim (it has IRS compared to the basic commodore).

- external oil cooler

- larger radiator

- Plenum spacer

- High flow filter and zorst

- Suspension upgrade

- Bigger brakes from the VT

- slicks/semi slicks

- LSD

- Lower geared diff for faster accel.

- Some form of body brace/cage - the VB to VS bodies suffer from flexing

*with extinguisher and fire blanket handy...

Lol, as much as commodores are dirty pushrod Bogan boats, it is a pretty good suggestion. These have the best power to weight out of pretty much all the commodores (light vs chassis, decent ecotec motor) and mod pretty well. I ran a flat 15 in a mildly modded VS (chip, silent lukey exhaust and pod) which had 115kW at the wheels (mates car). He then combined that with a bored out intake (home job, took the mouth behind the tb it thin as it would go and roller rockers and saw 125kW atw. If you were to expand upon that and pull off the (disgusting cast iron) heads and give them a fair shave, manifold spacer, mild cam and some better management and I reckon you could get ~ 100kW per tonne. And that’s without mentioning how easy it is to stroke those engines (which popo would never know about).

An IRS model with HD sways, good springs and excellent shocks with some wide wheels and good tyres (easy get some 18x8.5's or something from a newer model without attracting attention), as mentioned the VT-VY brake upgrade and fit an LSD and don’t forget some 3.7/3.9 diff gears, it would be a pretty good daily and track car, and quite quick off the line.

But very very bland, and boring, and still quite sloppy compared to an import, anything early or Australian most likely will be though... I’m a big fan of R31’s, and when I was on my P’s the power was good enough, but if you’re after numbers they’re not overly ideal, and the VS mentioned above decimated me time in my original rb30e (with 108 at the treads, exhaust/timing/XF/CAI).