Beer Baron Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 nice info from the tuner. it really does look like a gun set-up. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6006237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 nice info from the tuner. it really does look like a gun set-up. Yeah good to see someone giving some extra information! The power at 4000rpm is very impressive I'm assuming the "old set up" is a stock 2.0L motor with a GT30ish sized turbo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6006253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 That is an amazing power curve. Close to full power from 4-8k, thats a 4k spread of useable power! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6006281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 That would be one hell of a fast point to point car... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6006293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionnaire Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 The tuner posts some very nice and detailed info, that's great. And wow, better power AND response than previous setup, agreed with SimonR32, looks like it was GT30-based. Win-win. And it loses nothing to factory 4B11. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6006768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badhairdave Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 i want one now. Even at 18psi it's an animal to make so much power as early as it does. I wonder how an rb25 would go trying to spool it.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6007537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 i want one now. Even at 18psi it's an animal to make so much power as early as it does. I wonder how an rb25 would go trying to spool it.... I would expect peak torque to be a little higher in the rev range but the transient area to be a little better to compensate (think linear inline 6 effect). Now I want to see a 7064 on an SR, might just have to get one LOL Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6007608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 From this its hard not to consider the possibility that a TS EFR7064 on an RB25 with E85 = GT2835 (probably better) spool/response, T67-25G power.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6007702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 yeah I wonder how a 7670 would run at 30psi on my Jun RB27? but given how responsive the 9180 was on berrys RB30 I was thinking 8374 for me but if the 7670 can make the power I want (380-400kw atw) then why not use it? I'm still not convinced it's a genuine 600hp/400kw @ 30psi at the treads turbo though but if it is then it's bloody awesome. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6007817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub Boy32 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I can't believe how boost thirsty these things are....Hope my engines up to the task Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6007869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 Beer Baron - Depends on the dyno you're reading at the treads at, some rolling roads (ie, Dynojets) often read the same if not higher than Dynapacks... depending on the setups of course. This is ~470kw @ hubs, I'd say if this is a genuine reading, then I'd think 380-400kw on a DD should be realistic. I can't believe how boost thirsty these things are....Hope my engines up to the task Its the EVO that needs that boost to make that power, though I'd still have gone the 9180 for an RB30 personally Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6007880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 yeah I wonder how a 7670 would run at 30psi on my Jun RB27? but given how responsive the 9180 was on berrys RB30 I was thinking 8374 for me but if the 7670 can make the power I want (380-400kw atw) then why not use it? I'm still not convinced it's a genuine 600hp/400kw @ 30psi at the treads turbo though but if it is then it's bloody awesome. My "410kw" on the same hub dyno with the same correction (SAE) went 360rwkw on a Dyno Dynamics roller... So I would imagine the 30psi E85 run would be around the 400-420rwkw Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6008147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 cheers. so it's in the ball park then. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6011629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub Boy32 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 though I'd still have gone the 9180 for an RB30 personally LOL! Yeah....We'll see! I'm not looking for as much power as "The Berry-Mobile" Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6013075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 Its the width of the compressor map that inspires me to say that more than the outright power numbers - will be interesting to see what kind of power the EFR8374 lets through when not pumping 2+bar through it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6013194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nee-san Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Lol 70kw difference between a Hub and roller Dyno ? Nigga please. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6013339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Lol 70kw difference between a Hub and roller Dyno ? Nigga please. Way to make yourself look like a dickhead Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6013360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nee-san Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Thanks, but I'm well aware that you've previously posted those results, not really any need for name calling, most of us are adults here. Maybe on the dynos you use there is a 70kw difference. Location:Perth. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6013579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR32 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Thanks, but I'm well aware that you've previously posted those results, not really any need for name calling, most of us are adults here. Maybe on the dynos you use there is a 70kw difference. Location:Perth. I didn't call you a name? The dynos I "use" is the same dyno with the same correction as the result of the Borg Warner EFR on the last page (so a viable comparison)... It's also the same dyno that STATUS (not from Perth) uses. (battery, with almost an identical set up to mine makes almost exactly the same power as mine on the STATUS dyno as mine does on the Allstar dyno) It's also worth noting that we know the hub dyno reads higher than a roller, which is why we usually leave correction off. With correction turned off it's still 30kw difference between the hubber and the roller! The 2 runs were also on the same tank of fuel with about 50km of driving between the 2 dynos... Also in regards to the shot at high reading dynos in Perth, good one... Original, pitty the mph does not lie! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6013663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIEVE Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Thanks, but I'm well aware that you've previously posted those results, not really any need for name calling, most of us are adults here. Maybe on the dynos you use there is a 70kw difference. Location:Perth. Now you just sound incredibly ignorant. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/341890-closed-borg-warner-efr-series-turbos/page/35/#findComment-6013684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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