Bang!

[chunkylover69]

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/revealed-margin-for-error-on-speeding-reduced-to-zero-20110324-1c8kp.html

[Galois]

Just read that. Only the devil's spawn does 61 in a 60 zone, no-one's ever made that mistake before.

[chunkylover69]

Also read earlier in the week that the number of mobile speed camera sites will be increased from around 150 to 2000+.

[ZED X]

Wow.... sucks to be you guys.

How on earth can they give 0km leniency?

[GTR-N1]

RTA?...

Clover Moore is behind this, I'm sure of it > less cars > more bicycles...

...ever tried driving at 59km/hr in a 60 zone???

[robincooper]

Given that the regulations for speedometers is +/- 10% accuracy, this is incredible.

[34GeeTeeTee]

Its just revenue raising horse sh!t!

[ZED X]

Given that the regulations for speedometers is +/- 10% accuracy, this is incredible.

Does this reg not also apply to speed cameras and guns themselves aswell? Im sure they also have a degree of inaccuracy.

[r32-25t]

I've actually heard from some one who works in the nsw gov, that all this is happening because the state is broke

[oweban]

The question is: Can Libs repeal this? Or because it's the RTA, will it be untouchable?

[GTR-N1]

I've actually heard from some one who works in the nsw gov, that all this is happening because the state is broke

Knock-on effect:- Keneally is actually doing O'Farrell a favour > to take a step towards balancing the budget.

In regard to your relevant comment Owen, O'Farrell is on record to have stated, "I want greater police presence (rather than fine people off the road)"

He wouldn't have to repeal an RTA intention as it hasn't been enacted yet.

[Yts]

funny how the governments in sydney are the ones that are broke and struggling and rather than finding positive ways to re emberse themselves - lets say take a pay cut for instance... on there almost obscene wages. they target the easiest and slyiest way to get "quick" bucks without any real retaliation and the sucess rate is going to be massive, not just for import drivers but all drivers.

what ever happened to the give aussies are fair go slogan?

[Messiah]

i think it would be fairly easy to torpedo this by disputing fines through court again and again.

Given that the ADR's give +/- 10% at 40kph you could argue that purely due to aus design standards that it is impossible to regulate your speed to the required standard.

The only way to ensure this (at 60kph) would be to drive a marked 6kph slower than the posted limit, with the possibility (due to above +/- error) of actually going 12 km under the limit (48 kph) and as such possibly obstructing traffic.

Win that argument a few times... job done.

[robincooper]

i think it would be fairly easy to torpedo this by disputing fines through court again and again.

Given that the ADR's give +/- 10% at 40kph you could argue that purely due to aus design standards that it is impossible to regulate your speed to the required standard.

The only way to ensure this (at 60kph) would be to drive a marked 6kph slower than the posted limit, with the possibility (due to above +/- error) of actually going 12 km under the limit (48 kph) and as such possibly obstructing traffic.

Win that argument a few times... job done.

It is a good point, but, how many people fined with doing 61 in a 60 zone are going to opt for the legal option? I would say, and I am sure this is an assumption of the RTA/Government also that the vast majority of these people will simply pay the fines.

[Messiah]

i think if it were uncommon to be fined for that kind of offence you'd be right, but given the spike in cameras thats also planned, it would mean that being pinged for 61 would become quite common.

As the point hit is what would really hurt (i dair say the fine for 1 over would be low) i think disputes could go up.

Plus if someone gets one case dismissed based on my above suggestion, i think news would spread and it would start to snow ball.

that said... i can also see them updating the ADR's to make +/- 0% the requirement and then defecting you when you dispute it.

[NISMO]

funny how the governments in sydney are the ones that are broke and struggling and rather than finding positive ways to re emberse themselves - lets say take a pay cut for instance... on there almost obscene wages. they target the easiest and slyiest way to get "quick" bucks without any real retaliation and the sucess rate is going to be massive, not just for import drivers but all drivers.

what ever happened to the give aussies are fair go slogan?

Personally i think its the opposite

If you look at what the execs in big business get paid, and then look at government, i think the problem is that its such a low paying job for the amount of responsibility and stress, that no half intelligent person would actually even attempt it. End result is we get people in power like those we have now, from federal to state to local. No one with any actual background in running a major enterprise (which is what govt is).

[Messiah]

“Those who seek power are not worthy of that power.”

[pistol-pete]

unless they change the ADRs surrounding speedo readings and calibrations there is no way if you took a 61kph fine to court would it hold up

[MBS206]

unless they change the ADRs surrounding speedo readings and calibrations there is no way if you took a 61kph fine to court would it hold up

Why? Have you read the ADRs?

Everyone has been statng that it's +/-10%... But that's incorrect. The ADRs actually state a speedo has to be +10% accurate, NOT +/-

That meaning, your speedo can show your actual speed, OR upto 10% over your actual speed.

[chunkylover69]

I'm glad someone pointed this out.

They (speedo's) can show you going faster than you are, but not slower, not even by a little bit.