Wideband Kits

[No Crust Racing]

Install myself for sure 95% of everything on the Sil has been done by me (that was a big oart of buying something unmodified to start with) though I'll have to go to a mates to borrow his welder.

Getting it installed would cost money, that's crazy talk...

Edited August 11, 2011 by ActionDan

[Hanaldo]

Good stuff, I'm awaiting results impatiently

[No Crust Racing]

Seller said he shipped pretty much straight away.

UPSP Says:

Class: Priority Mail International Parcels

Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received

So they at least know it exists, it goes on to say that this pretty much just means that it's been logged. I'm hoping for delivery in the next eek or two.

[89CAL]

Be good if it turns up and is the genuine thing. I bought mine off MVP motorsports in the states and they were prettyaverage with customer service. Think it was 2 months between sending the first email about it to actually receiving it

[JonnoHR31]

Seller said he shipped pretty much straight away.

UPSP Says:

Class: Priority Mail International Parcels

Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received

So they at least know it exists, it goes on to say that this pretty much just means that it's been logged. I'm hoping for delivery in the next eek or two.

99% of the time USPS tracking doesnt work, by the time the updates along its journey come up on the net you've already had the package for 3 weeks.... their priority mail isnt all that fast either.

[KEBAB_DRIFTER]

i recieved my aem wide band yesterday , post was extremly fast looks like the real deal

going to throw it in over the weekend , dump pipe already has a second bung welded in although knowing my luck the thread will be wrong ..... hahaha

[ARTZ]

If there is a bung infront my hiflow cat, would that be a good place to put one?

[PM-R33]

Yep.

[No Crust Racing]

Lots of confidence surrounding shipping and genuine products I see lol

I've got no reason to doubt the seller, 7600 odd feedback on ebay selling lots of AEM products 99.6% positive feedback, seems pretty good to me.

Time will tell

[Beer Baron]

yeah it'll be fine dude. I'm sure you'll have it in a week or less and it'll be genuine. think I might get one for my roadie and one for the silvia too if it's good. let me know what you think. I really wanted another innovate one (had one years ago) but all the bad press lately is making me second guess that choice.

[No Crust Racing]

Looks promising, impressed with freight time so far if this is even remotely accurate. Especially considering I ordered something from the Hardtuned store at the start of August as a gift for a mate and it still hasn't turned up....

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Edited August 16, 2011 by ActionDan

[SimonR32]

I purchased a AEM UEGO last Friday off ebay (USA seller), $198 delivered and was sent by FedEx which arrived yesterday! Sent on Saturday apparently

Gotta be happy with that

[No Crust Racing]

Must be the same kit, as the one I bought went up to 198 after I got it. You got yours faster though, bastard

Let us now how you go with the install.

[Beer Baron]

yeah keen to hear some feedback guys. trying to decide whether to buy another innovate kit or try this one instead.

[BlueRB240]

Look up zeitronix. http://www.zeitronix.com/ They have 2 units. 1 that is just a wideband and another that will do more. I have 2 of these now one I log EGT's along with A/F. It uses a Bosh 02 sensor too.

[XRATED]

yeah keen to hear some feedback guys. trying to decide whether to buy another innovate kit or try this one instead.

Don't do it... I've bought 3 innovate kits so far! grrrr...

[D_Stirls]

The reason i went for the Innovate gauge is because the AEM product has a fixed calibration, which is fine if the sensor doesn't wear overtime and it's tolerance move but all sensors do. With the AEM product you have to then replace the sensor, with the Innovate (and most others) you just do another free air calibration and away you go.

I also like the fact that you can chose what AFR scale you want to use on the Innovate where as with the AEM gauge you stuck with Petrol AFR scale or Lambda.

Also the data logging on the AEM product is very basic, it's basically a MS notepad window with just readings on it, no RPM reference. Not an issue though if your data logging through your ECU though.

Edited August 18, 2011 by D_Stirls

[No Crust Racing]

Just to clear up a few things from the above.

The AEM does have fixed calibration, and from what I have read and heard about the Innovates, the free air calibration is one of the sticking points that people dislike, due to various issues they can require a free air calibration numerous times and quite often (will depend on your experience of course but there is a lot of data around supporting the Innovate as being a sub par product these days). They both use the same sensor so you'll be replacing it around the same time anyway as the life span of the bosh 4.2 is the same for both units. The Innovate will give you more accurate readings over it's lifespan though as you can re-calibrate it.

I'd rather chuck in another $60-$90 bosh sensor once every few years (which will be longer than the life of the vehicle in my hands anyway) than constantly be removing the sensor to re-calibrate it. How much of a PITA would that be if it's mounted just before the cat(the manual tells you that for high RPM or high boost applications you need 36 inches of clearance from the turbo). The shift in sensor sensitivities might be an issue if you were using the AEM to tune to the ragged edge, but who would be doing that with a $200 gauge? In my instance I don't even have timing control so for me it's simply giving me enough data to keep AFR's safe for a given boost level, I'm not exactly going for every last killerwasp.

Neither the Innovate nor the AEM will log another reference point (RPM, vehicle speed etc) against AFR out of the box, both require additional pickups and a controller to do this, but as said not an issue if you are logging through your ECU. The hyper terminal screen shot you showed above is enough for me.

Regarding the options for readout, all I need is an simple AFR number, if I ever wanted to go more advanced I'd just hook up the voltage pickup to whatever ECU I had. I'm not sure what else you would really need on a basic car besides a standard afr figure or a lambda value, unless you're talking about being able to handle E85 etc. At under $200 delivered though, this item is hardly aimed at top tier racers using exotic fuels.

When it comes down to it, the AEM to me appears to be a slightly simpler product in a few ways and it will only suit certain applications. I'll take that over the more advanced but seemingly less reliable feature set of the Innovate any day.

Edited August 19, 2011 by ActionDan

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

+1 for AEM, here's my install in the driver side vent

[SimonR32]

+1 for AEM, here's my install in the driver side vent

I was going to try and mount in the drivers side vent but it's too much out of sight...

Decided I'm going to put it just to the left of the steering column (where the GTR's have their digital clock) as Gts-t's have 2 switch blanks there. Much better viewing of the gauge, can see it with a quick glance down from the speedo. Going to cut out a circle with a dremel