Buying A R33

[NaYsTRo]

this may be the wrong place to post this thread i apologize if so.

i am currently on my l plates with 2 weeks to go and am currently looking into purchasing a r33 gts or a r32 gts. i am looking at around the 10 - 12 k mark. no turbo as im not one to want to risk my wallet for a turbo.

i was just wondering what everyones thoughts are on the n/a skylines?

do you believe it is worth investing the money on a n/a model or would you suggest waiting the 3 years and then experiencing the full power of a r34 gtr?

just really wanting some second opionions about to spend the money now on a n/a as just really a streat cruiser that you can just increase the aesthetics with small engine mods and exhaust. or to wait and get a 34 gtr in a couple of years???

also who do you believe are the best insurers as i have got a couple of quotes averaging around 3k comprehensive.

thanks

[GTR-N1]

Hi Ethan,

Welcome to SAU!

Other than your insurance Q, the others are very subjective and you'll get a whole array of responses.

I'd go with your gut feel > don't rice it up; use genuine parts or exact copies if you want to go for a cosmetic makeover > take care of the car > come to some of our events > check out the forums here > do advanced driver training courses = on the right track towards a gtr

With grey imports, your insurance choices are Just Car, Lumleys SV, Shannons (but you may not be old enough), NRMA (which often does not give a very good 'sum insured')...

Cheers, T

[Ruxis]

Hey mate,

From what I've HEARD NA skylines are the slowest things on the road. So it all depends on what your looking for in a car. As for moding it I've also HEARD it's illegal to do any modifications while on your ps, ofcoarse everyone does but maybe something to look up seeing as you like your money in your wallet as you've said smart man.

As for buying a 34 Gtr, i myself owned a 3000 dollar camry since I was 16, I'm now 20 and got my skyline 4ish months ago when I got my blacks. And the '88 camry may have let me down once with a dead battery hah. So having a small car although is very boring, can save you alot of money, you can park it anywhere, treat it like crap as a fee times the camrys oil has run DRY haha. So it depends on what you can afford and at the end of they day what you'll be happy with. If you buy a skyline now opposed to a run around you may not be able to afford a Gtr because of petrol or mods or theft.

But what ever you get do what Terry said above come to events and learn how to drive, it's helped me alot so far and is so much Fun!

I hope this made sense, I just woke up hah.

Jarrad.

[Aggroman]

i did it.. had a ball, slapped on a turbo and am now going to be doing a 3l bottom end.. It will cost you alot of money if u cant wait and start modifying it.. I could of bought a nice 34gtr but meh

If your plan is to keep it and go the same route as me get a 34 as it already has things like 5 stud, better head etc

[MBS206]

I was going to make the suggestion, if you want to buy an NA, buy an R34 one. Don't waste your time in the 32/33 camp. The 34 in the cabin is a much better car.

In saying that, I'd also look at what you're going to want to do in the near future. Personally, I love the fun of getting away with a bunch of mates, throwing a bunch of gear in the back of a car and heading for some fun out bush, where know most P plates that are into cars, you'll have some fun in paddocks etc and just flogging the car around. For example, heading up to nelsons bay etc, you can actually legally drive on the beach... I wouldn't try that in the Skyline...

[The Bogan]

If your on your Ps get whatever NA that you like the look of which won't break the bank, don't do any powermods or rice it up as you will throwing money down the drain for minimal gain.

If later on you want power then get something already done up the way you want it later on and save 10s of thousands of dollars.

or if your rich or stupid buy a stokers and modify it to within a inch of its life, me, I was stupid, LOL.

[evil_weevil]

Id go the 34 non turbo as Matt said

and as Mark said dont go power mods on an NA line

if you get some nice suspension parts and brakes - its a fun car to drive and great to learn on especially if you do some defensive driver courses - and honestly - do a few driver courses - thats the best modification

[oweban]

AND TEXIS COUGH COUGH

[SKITTLES]

No the best modifications are some neons and a motek exhaust.

[oweban]

and spinners

[NaYsTRo]

and a vtec??

what do you guys think about a na supra with a 2jz gte in it??

[Aggroman]

does mad single peggers.. thats about it

[Juz]

My 33, even tho It might not be the fastest P plate car on the road Its still a bucket of fun! and it looks on the money! It doesn't go half that bad too..

just don't chuck chromies on it please.

[evil_weevil]

Get a VN commodore

same year as R32's but...

bigger donk

more street cred

[Aggroman]

Then you can kick it in the front seat.. kick it in the back seat.. oh which seat can I take?!?!?

[GoldZilla]

and a vtec??

what do you guys think about a na supra with a 2jz gte in it??

An NA Supra with a 2JZ-GTE in it is no longer an NA Supra.

If it has a 2JZ-GE in it, then it's a different story. You can even drive it legally on your P's! WIN!

[GTR-N1]

and a vtec??

Actually, a really nice 5th generation Prelude VTiR (despite being FWD) is a great car. Get into Prelude Aust forum > F/S and take your pick with $8K in hand.

And when you come back on here at SAU, just adjust your User Name by removing the letters "N-a-s-T-R"

[evil_weevil]

MX5

[SargeRX8]

There are only 3 people I see driving MX5's. Old men, old women and gay men.

[Pezhead]

This is some good advice mixed in here. First even though it seems like a long time off getting through your P's isn't that long. As Aggroman has said, he could have bought a much nicer car for what he's put into his car. A typical build up of a car while you use it as your primary driver vehicle will take a couple of years.

What Aggro isn't telling you is that he's cut most of the cost on his build by doing the work himself. He has countless hours into the car which if you were paying a shop would pay for a GTR a couple of times over.

Each car will have it's limit in capability. So if your aim is to have a decent modified car always start from the best base that you can. But unless you are really good at planning your modifications and have the $$ to back them, odds are that you will end up with something less optimal than a car that started out as a good performer with some small mods.

Get a decent NA car - the more displacement the more power but also less fuel economy. You need to figure out your budget and match. My son's friend has just gotten an NA supra. Decent car for the money, just a bit heavy (look who's talking about heavy hehe).

My two schools of thought are if you want a fast car start as light as possible. It is much easier to make a light car quick (as in zippy and fun to drive). MX5's, 180's and hot hatches are all light with a reasonable amount of power and can be very fun to drive. Or if you are addicted to the "Raw power" sensation there is nothing like the feeling of a lot of horse power. But usually it's the bigger heavier cars that have donk's with the potential for bigger power. But your ability to translate the power around corners is limited by the weight and handling of the car. So really it all depends on what you want to do.

Quick = power -vs- weight so some hot hatches or small imports will do better if you want quick

Fast (as in top end speed) = power, which for NA engines is displacement and efficiency