Putting An External Gate On My Car Should I?

[Jay_stylz]

hey guys was looking into putting an external gate on my car but not sure if it will make any diff at all? mods to the car are yellow jacket coil packs vg30 tubro fmic turbo smart dual boost controll what u guys think?> any idea what i need? without stating the obvious

[zebra]

you will gain 100 style points, and +2 charisma

[wolverine]

although they will subtract experience points...

(no you will gain nothing from an external gate with your setup)

[Jay_stylz]

just sound tough aye kinda of a fail ... i dont plan on keepin this set up for to long but i wanna put a bigger turbo and shit change up the ecu stuff like that

[NYTSKY]

Seeing as you have an internal gate turbo..............

[Bsa]

Iv got one for sale haha just putting it out there turbo and all. Wastegate on stock turbos = fail

[Rolls]

Put two on there, the more the better really.

[tridentt150v]

Whats the use of splashing $$$$ for an external gate when you have an internal>>>>>and>>>>you intend upgrading your turbo anyway?

Wait until you upgrade your turbo and ECU and then do it all at the same time, then you will only have to pay for new dump and pipes once!

And absolutely no gains at all until your pushing up to 300rwkw. Then not so much a gain as better wastegate control. But there are ppl on here with internal gates that will swear that they have it all under control at over 300 - it just took them a while to finesse their setup.

[Jay_stylz]

cheers guys thanks for the replies

[Rolls]

In the future go 'what is my goal?' and then figure out what parts are needed to obtain that goal, don't do it backwards and go I want this part but I don't know why.

[Hanaldo]

In the future go 'what is my goal?' and then figure out what parts are needed to obtain that goal, don't do it backwards and go I want this part but I don't know why.

But... Racecar

[GTScotT]

external or internal is application specific. you could get the most epic internal gate turbo out and have zero use for an external gate or you could want to run a turbo that does not have a good internal housing available and will need to run an external gate.

putting it simply:

stock NO

35R YES

2835 pro S NO

3076 .63 YES

Kando T67 YES

Hypergear NO

Do some reading and you will see what I mean. Bare in mind that you cant necessarily search for 'external gate' and find the answer, you will need to read lots of results based threads to find out what ppl are doing with what turbos and what the effects are.

A good example of this is Simon S14 with a 3076R and .63 rear housing using an external gate, generally speaking a .63 is a terrible thing on a 3076 RB25 but Simon is one of the only ones running it as an external gate rather than internal. A good comparison in results to this is the lots and lots of people who can successfully pull off a .82 internal housing. That shows you not all things are equal and you need to know your turbo before try to pick its setup.

GL

[GTR260]

Short answer

No

There is no gain from using an external gate on stock turbo

[TJR32GTS-T]

^Hi-jacking thread*

I have a gt2835r on my rb20 r32 tracky and my internal gate is jamming on the dump pipe, I've had the dump pipe off about 10 f**king times shaving more n more out of the dump and it is still getting caught, I'm thinking of changing to a external setup just to avoid this issue. What are your guys thoughts? Unsure of rear housing size sorry.

Cheers- Trent

[Bsa]

If it's causing a problem the change to external not hard just costs money. Otherwise buy a new dump pipe

[TJR32GTS-T]

Is it a hard mod to DIY? I have access to a workshop. Hoist/tools/welder etc

[Bsa]

As long as you have a manifold to accept a external gate and you can deal with welding over head

[TJR32GTS-T]

Between me,a mechanic and a boiler maker I reckon it's do-able, just read your write-up on modifying the standard manifold, sweet job dude.

[zebra]

so you are going to run an internal gate setup and an external setup.

im sorry but that has got to take the cake as one of the dumbest things I have ever heard

are you running the HKS GT2835? and its HKS dump pipe?

seriously, get a new dump pipe

[Hanaldo]

Well just weld the internal gate shut, that's no biggy. Unless it's hard to access...