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fcuk ets, bring on e85 and regenerative turbines

Cant understand why they havent gone to an ethanol/biofuel of some sort if they are trying to beef up their ecomentalist credentials. Too much like Indycar if they did?

Edited by djr81

they'd need near on double the size tanks to run full race without stopping if they used e85

Well they are limited to 100kgs which is what 140 litres? Back in the olden days before the last couple of years of the last turbo era they could carry much more. so another 20 or 30 litres to compensate shouldnt make much difference.

According to the internet:

1986: Fuel tank capacity limit was lowered from 220 litres to 195 litres.

1988: Fuel tank capacity limit was lowered from 195 litres to 150 litres.

Sux to be Felix Da Costa right now....but he has hurt his rep with a scrappy year in WSR. Hope fresh fish smashes JEV

Imagine being 19 and a GP3 driver getting pushed into F1

big jump..

Daniil Kvyat will feel overwhelmed like his bro Sergey Sirotkin..

i can't wait to hear the sky f1 guys try to pronounce those names. :D

They canned it due to safety but also due tot eh cost of carting all the gear from GP to GP. So dotn see re-fuelling coming back anytime soon...and the new regs with teh added weight of coolers etc and the further reduction of fuel tank size...they are really trying to put the ceiling on power based on economy and effeciency and their KERS power.

I susect that there wotn be much wastegate noise from these bad boys as that is wasted engergy and they weill be looking at that as a source of energy recovery somehow

Economy being the key word, plus sponsors do not like seeing crew members on fire regardless of their dancing ability, or visibility of flame.

Personally refuelling is ok by me, as it adds another system to the game and more to go wrong hence the word system, in that regard FFS bring back manual boxes, let thoses monkeys earn the big bucks too!

get rid of pirelli and bring back refueling.... best racing we will see this decade hands down!

people going full ball all race and teams running the gauntlet deciding how much fuel to run to give best advantage, I think it would show the men from the boys in the way of consistent race pace

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