Deadlift Progress And Improvement Thread

[Sisbro666]

I don't have spinal injuries people I know have because their egos were bigger than mine. I have sore joints only and a few pulled muscles.

And form changes with weight? Seriously?

Dude if you want to lift like that and risk injury just for the sake of telling ppl you lift 200kg or what not go ahead all I'm saying is nothing is worth more than your back

Peace out, I've said my bit hopefully even one new guy reading this might look after themselves and lift correctly for years to come

[rev210]

For consideration Sisbro666, I am 40 yrs of age . Like you, I did some training in my youth. I went back to training around the age you are now before taking another big break. I managed to get quite strong in my early 30's and I have zero legacy issues. Caution is good when it comes to form. My suggestion is that on compound lifts like deads, squats and bench the power lifting coaches represent a quality source of guidance on technique. It's potentially a good source to avoid technique glitches.

We are of different views on the use of straps for deadlifts but, my suggestion is that it's possible to learn to lift without the issues that might require straps in the first place. I think possibly the key is in tweaking the deadlift setup for those finding grip problematic.

[rev210]

good form below. he got this from coaching...something I'd suggest the 'new guys' look into before assuming a youtube vid or two of beginer technique is going to get them into good habbits or even the debate on this forum.

Some of the new guys to deadlifts can attest the benifits of a single coaching session. good advice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUEVZrYeWco

Edited August 9, 2013 by rev210

[markos]

I think Pats intentions are good and he believes what he says, and without being offensive, its guys like Pat that forced me out of gyms in the 90's and had me training at home. Now that I have PTC gyms around, information like Pats doesnt effect anyone, because everyone in there is trying to get stronger, not worry where their chin is.

Far too many who lifted too little are trying to tell far to many who lifted a lot how to do things.

I never tell a "bodybuilder" how to lift unless he ASKS me.

I'll get Martin to contact you for some tips on how he can do better at his SPORT, Pat. Until he does though, I'll keep coaching my powerlifters to more titles and world records, if its okay with you.

[-FIGJAM-]

I am always weary about watching a vodeo on how to dead or how to squat becaise tjere are stoll to many questions on who it is actually giving the instructions amongst other things.

I guesss it's similar to watching a golf instructional video, just because I watch a pro show you how to chip around the green doesn't mean that the next time I need a good pitch I'll produce it.

[bozodos]

this might be a question for Markos, but with stiff legged deadlifts, is the bar meant to stay in contact with your body all the way down, and is it meant to touch the floor on each rep?

[Birds]

If you have the flexibility and mobility to touch the ground, do it...more range of motion is almost always better. Generally speaking, the closer to your body, the better too.

[rev210]

Form dictates position. Bar travels vertically is end result. How close to the body is relative. It will wind up closer with correct form with dependence on relative mechanics of the person.

[Birds]

90kg x 10

130kg x 10

160kg x 4

170kg x 2

180kg x 1

90kg x 10

130kg x 9

160kg x 5

170kg x 3

180kg x 1

Added another rep to 160 and 170. The last rep on 170 was a struggle and involved a tad hitching, as did the 180. It matters not though, the way I see it is the reps are going up and therefore the strength is too. Like I said last post, 170 used to be my 1RM, so 3 is fantastic for me! My volume goal will be to get that up to around 6-7 reps and then I'll resume 1RM training to hopefully surpass 200.

[rev210]

How long has it been since starting the 1rm in volume training birds?

[Birds]

Sorry Dave, not exactly sure what you're asking...can you elaborate?

[rev210]

sorry just lazy ha ha.. I just checked you were doing the 1rm in the routine since Feb. when you started at 170kg and then the goal was to deadlift 200kg. So you are pretty close now .

[Birds]

Oh yep, I see. Well it's complicated I guess. I've been 1RM training after volume for quite some time...probably a few months before Feb, as my first 1RM started at around 140kg, but this thread didn't exist back then.

Had around 170kg 1RM back in Feb, but then focused on volume for a bit to play catchup. Got a shoulder injury and ditched deads for about 2 months. Have been back (pun) at training the 1RMs for the last 2 months, got to 190kg and have now decided to focus on volume again.

I'm fairly confident that if I did a warm up and some singles I could get out the 200 now...but I'm patient enough to wait until my my volume training catches up again. Then I can smash past the 200 with good form, instead of plateauing it.

Not sure if sound logic or the most efficient way of doing it, but until I properly plateau or see a negative side, I'll keep doing what I'm doing. The good news is that my weight hasn't gone up with the lifts. I'm still 80kg, which is what I want to be when I do pull 200.

[L33SH]

Can anyone help me as to why I'm constantly hitting my knees with the bar when dead lifting? Covered in bruises and in alot of pain right now

[L33SH]

Okay now one knee is bleeding, what the hell am I doing wrong? So over deadlifts

[rev210]

Shouldnt hit the knees. Hips moving t7oo late?

Edited August 14, 2013 by rev210

[No Crust Racing]

Knees on the way up or down?

I get some bruises on my lower quads from time to time if I break at the knees too soon on the way down as I'm more legs than torso.

To beat that I have to bend at the waist first get the bar down a bit then break the knees to fully lower it.

Remember I said every person has unique mechanics.

[rev210]

Hip position is too low could do it. Squat-lifting as opposed to dead lifting will probably hit the knees more. Raise the hip postiion.

[No Crust Racing]

I was doing that until I saw Matt and learned I had to actually bend over to grab the bar not squat down to it. Make it a back exercise etc

[jangles]

I was doing that until I saw Matt and learned I had to actually bend over to grab the bar not squat down to it. Make it a back exercise etc

Yeah, you have to set up from top down, not bottom up was the easiest way for me to learn

Edited August 14, 2013 by jangles