Mick_o Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hahaha! the HTA 73 is due next week!!! WOOOOO!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7213667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
34GeeTeeTee Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hahaha! the HTA 73 is due next week!!! WOOOOO!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7213677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R377 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 CAN I PLEASE ASK A MODERATOR TO PLEASE REMOVE MY COMMENTS TO JACKY CHAN ON PAGE 30. CAN THESE PLEASE BE DONE ASAP http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page-30 THANKS Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7213732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
afb312 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Do the HTA FP 3582 & 3586 turbos use a metal or plastic cages in their ball bearings? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7213972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r32-25t Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Plastic Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7213990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_o Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 As above... They use garrett cartridges Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7214097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
afb312 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I was under the impression that the GTX range of Garret turbos used a metal cage... I could of course be wrong. Thanks for the answers though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7214107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r32-25t Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 The gtx does use metal cages, but the hta turbos are based off standard Garrett turbos Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7214194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggernaut1 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 You can opt to have them built with metal cages though. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7216909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 The gtx does use metal cages, but the hta turbos are based off standard Garrett turbos The Garrett based HTA turbos are based on Garrett cores, however the "FP" DBB turbos have metal cages - that covers the FP Green, Red, Black, Super94 and Super99 No doubt you can get the Garrett based ones with metal cages as well Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7216923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
34GeeTeeTee Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 The Garrett based HTA turbos are based on Garrett cores, however the "FP" DBB turbos have metal cages - that covers the FP Green, Red, Black, Super94 and Super99 No doubt you can get the Garrett based ones with metal cages as well Are the metal cages just for longevity? I know mine sure cops a lot of heat Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7216934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Are the metal cages just for longevity? I know mine sure cops a lot of heat Yep, is a durability thing. Though there are more than enough plastic cage GT users (my brother included) who have never had an issue. Don't worry, just retain warranty information Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7217008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
34GeeTeeTee Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Yep, is a durability thing. Though there are more than enough plastic cage GT users (my brother included) who have never had an issue. Don't worry, just retain warranty information Yeah have got all that I dont foresee any issues with the turbo i guess.... I would guess the thing copping the boost would let go first Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7217024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Yeah have got all that I dont foresee any issues with the turbo i guess.... I would guess the thing copping the boost would let go first LOL possibly. It should also be noted that Simon saw the same issue with his GT's that he did with the GTX that replaced it. I'm sure you saw the recent thread on that, so meh. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7217032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
34GeeTeeTee Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 LOL possibly. It should also be noted that Simon saw the same issue with his GT's that he did with the GTX that replaced it. I'm sure you saw the recent thread on that, so meh. Nope? Link? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7217044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Strangely enough thinking about it I know of hardly any GT-series based HTA turbo failures - not sure I definitely know of any, and I know of quite a number which have been used for track racing etc. Like usual, it'll be heat that causes any major issues.... odds are if its not on high boost and it's not sustaining heavy thrashing for a long time there (hopefully) won't be an issue. Touch wood, it's be fine so far! In 34GeeTeeTee's case I suspect the stock motor is the bit we should be more worried about Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7217047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
34GeeTeeTee Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Strangely enough thinking about it I know of hardly any GT-series based HTA turbo failures - not sure I definitely know of any, and I know of quite a number which have been used for track racing etc. Like usual, it'll be heat that causes any major issues.... odds are if its not on high boost and it's not sustaining heavy thrashing for a long time there (hopefully) won't be an issue. Touch wood, it's be fine so far! In 34GeeTeeTee's case I suspect the stock motor is the bit we should be more worried about Haha it's had a good innings so far and will continue to get driven they way it should Plenty of events coming up this year! I really should invest in a back up now i mention that! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7217054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Nope? Link? Come on dude, I thought you were an enthusiastic forum member! Can't be falling behind like this LOL http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/439625-dead-turbo-vid-inside/ Lith you are probably on the money (at least in my own mind). Hand in hand does pound for pound improvement go with improved efficiency, which is translated in lower charge temp and subsequent EGT. I would say the ratio of shaftspeed to flow at the compressor side has been engineered to benefit hotside flow, which would also greatly benefit. All in all they are superior turbos, and likely to have better lifespan as a result. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7217057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
34GeeTeeTee Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Come on dude, I thought you were an enthusiastic forum member! Can't be falling behind like this LOL http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/439625-dead-turbo-vid-inside/ Lith you are probably on the money (at least in my own mind). Hand in hand does pound for pound improvement go with improved efficiency, which is translated in lower charge temp and subsequent EGT. I would say the ratio of shaftspeed to flow at the compressor side has been engineered to benefit hotside flow, which would also greatly benefit. All in all they are superior turbos, and likely to have better lifespan as a result. Well there you go eh? I was off the forums for a while man, am hopefully back to make an ass of myself once again Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7217085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Well there you go eh? I was off the forums for a while man, am hopefully back to make an ass of myself once again I don't think you really need to try LOL Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/426059-forced-performance-hta-turbos/page/33/#findComment-7217087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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