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scotty nm35
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The speed difference is definitely not the issue, my motorised pushie does an easy 50-60kph and is a lot more dangerous on the road for many reasons, most being drivers just don't expect me to be trav

TREGTR
TREGTR

Too many bottles of grange in my cellar for that (metaphorically speaking) lol

PN-Mad
PN-Mad

I think both sides (talking globally here; not talking about people in this thread) have an arrogance that pisses each other off. Cyclists that flaunt themselves on the road, taking liberties just t

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PN-Mad Grand Master

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I think both sides (talking globally here; not talking about people in this thread) have an arrogance that pisses each other off.

Cyclists that flaunt themselves on the road, taking liberties just to piss people off, and motorists that think the world revolves around them (ahem mums on the school run....) and nothing should ever get in their way.

Sounds to me like Daleo is a good example of a responsible cyclist, he isn't going to be the one taking up a whole lane on a single lane road, he'll wave you past when it's safe to do so. In turn, and in respect of that, I'd pass him giving him as much room as I safely can. That's all that needs to happen.

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luke gtr Grand Master

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I think both sides (talking globally here; not talking about people in this thread) have an arrogance that pisses each other off.

Cyclists that flaunt themselves on the road, taking liberties just to piss people off, and motorists that think the world revolves around them (ahem mums on the school run....) and nothing should ever get in their way.

Sounds to me like Daleo is a good example of a responsible cyclist, he isn't going to be the one taking up a whole lane on a single lane road, he'll wave you past when it's safe to do so. In turn, and in respect of that, I'd pass him giving him as much room as I safely can. That's all that needs to happen.

this.

and when I ride, I keep to the opposite side, so I can see on coming traffic.

I ride on the road(when no brake down/bike lanes are available), and move onto the mud/grass/gravel when a car does approach.

I want to see them coming.

that way, I can react accordingly.

I also dont wear a helmet (lets not get into that debate atm), and have never been booked for not.

but...

if I do get booked, my reaction will be taking an entire lane the entire trip.

because, thats the law....

dont ride much anymore, so doubt it will ever happen.

aaand, go...

PN-Mad Grand Master

PN-Mad

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this.

and when I ride, I keep to the opposite side, so I can see on coming traffic.

I ride on the road(when no brake down/bike lanes are available), and move onto the mud/grass/gravel when a car does approach.

I want to see them coming.

that way, I can react accordingly.

I also dont wear a helmet (lets not get into that debate atm), and have never been booked for not.

but...

if I do get booked, my reaction will be taking an entire lane the entire trip.

because, thats the law....

dont ride much anymore, so doubt it will ever happen.

aaand, go...

How is your crank bearing....?

Daleo Grand Master

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Here's an interesting article from the US about the "Idaho Stop".
http://www.vox.com/2014/5/9/5691098/why-cyclists-should-be-able-to-roll-through-stop-signs-and-ride

It proposes some constructive solutions for getting bicycles off high traffic thoroughfares, which would be a win for both sides of the argument.

Not trying to inflame the situation, but there is some useful info in there, and the rule (or a version of it under a different name) has been in use in states across the US with fewer negative outcomes than the status quo.

PN-Mad Grand Master

PN-Mad

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Here's an interesting article from the US about the "Idaho Stop".

http://www.vox.com/2014/5/9/5691098/why-cyclists-should-be-able-to-roll-through-stop-signs-and-ride

It proposes some constructive solutions for getting bicycles off high traffic thoroughfares, which would be a win for both sides of the argument.

Not trying to inflame the situation, but there is some useful info in there, and the rule (or a version of it under a different name) has been in use in states across the US with fewer negative outcomes than the status quo.

Yeah, apparently cars are exempt from the laws of physics. Spot that line in there?

Frankly, I didn't think it was a very well written article, and it didn't sway my opinion that it is safer to have enforced stop and red lights.

If governments were serious about reducing carbon emissions, they wouldn't be installing traffic calming devices, red lights etc etc all the time. Imagine the carbon footprint of a new set of traffic lights over its lifetime?!

But that's ok, cause the government gets the cash from the fuel excise.... :/

scotty nm35 Grand Master

scotty nm35

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Did you see the main point in there? Bicycles don't trigger the light circuit, so the lights will never change. I am sure many of the motorcyclists amongst us have blown a red for that very reason. I know I have had to many times over the years. Does this make me a criminal worthy of being stoned with spark plugs? Farkin wanker...

PN-Mad Grand Master

PN-Mad

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"Several states have similar "Dead Red" laws, which lets cyclists (and motorcyclists) ride through a red light if there's no traffic, if the cyclists have stopped for set periods of time, and if the light isn't changing because its sensor doesn't register bikes."

Yes, I can see that, after stopping for a set amount of time, the cyclist can proceed through the intersection. They might also be able to use that magical button on the side of most traffic lights that turns them red to allow people to cross... ;)

Anyway, thanks, when did I ever say I chuck plugs at cyclists....? I thought my posts were pretty neutral....

scotty nm35 Grand Master

scotty nm35

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Wanker comment was directed at the bloke suggesting it.

Cyclists aren't allowed on the footpath, and quite often are clipped into their pedals. Magical button? It's for pedestrians. Yet again, there are no facilities for cyclists in most cases. These would need to be included in any bike rego process.

PN-Mad Grand Master

PN-Mad

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Wanker comment was directed at the bloke suggesting it.

Cyclists aren't allowed on the footpath, and quite often are clipped into their pedals. Magical button? It's for pedestrians. Yet again, there are no facilities for cyclists in most cases. These would need to be included in any bike rego process.

Carry a broom stick to push said button? :P

Then you can bash arsehole drivers who try to clip you, and also have a jousting session when you get to two lane bike paths! :D

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Daleo Grand Master

Daleo

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Bicycle jousting is the best solution this thread has produced.

Nice work Luke!

Brb, off to get a broomstick.

It wasn't saying that cars expend no energy to get moving from a standstill, just that the driver isn't the one physically getting the car moving again; unlike the bicycle.

luke gtr Grand Master

luke gtr

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Bicycle jousting is the best solution this thread has produced.

Nice work Luke!

Brb, off to get a broomstick.

It wasn't saying that cars expend no energy to get moving from a standstill, just that the driver isn't the one physically getting the car moving again; unlike the bicycle.

twasnt my idea, but I like it.
Daleo Grand Master

Daleo

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You shall be forced to mount the toddler tricycle for the first round of bicycle jousting.

Mmm K?

Nay, I shall be astride the toddlers balance bike.

Yea verily; it has newfangled yellow plastic wheels, and an ooga horn.

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