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Daleo
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The heaviest traffic runs from Centenary drive to James Ruse drive in the afternoon; the toll will push a lot of traffic back on to surface roads. This will help reduce the congestion on the M4 but

GTofuS-T
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any source on that? All the articles I can find say 2017 after the upgrades, but then will continue until 2060. Also, off topic, but M5 rebate went through! Luckily I had unknowingly signed up for it

Duncan
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Indeed....when has adding more lanes ever made traffic move faster? eg, 2 years after the major M2 upgrade: "The largest fall was on the M2 Hills Motorway from North Ryde to Carlingford, where the a

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Elevated roads would be hideous.

I think tunneling could be a better alternative?

Tunnelling would be the other way. Whether it's above or below, either way we need to start using all three dimensions pretty soon. Or massively improve public transport.

Personally I think tunnels everywhere would be hideous because you'd spend all your time driving under artificial lighting in the dark. I like being able to see the sky, being stuck in traffic in the M5 East is boring enough to nearly put me to sleep. At least with elevated roads only the arterial highways and main roads would be thrown into shadows, and most people would be using the elevated one anyway since it's for transit. Like, you'd have Hume Highway down below for people who need to go to businesses or whatever there, and you'd have the elevated Hume Highway for people who're just passing through the neighbourhood to get somewhere else.

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Used the M4 to get to the airport today, seems like my usual route of jumping on from Silverwater Rd will still hit me with a toll charge.

Massive changes going on though, it's been a long time since I've been through there.

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If you're going to release tens of thousands of homes, you need the infrastructure to allow people to move about.

Or... Nuke the place and start fresh.

this is what really needs to happen or give businesses incentives to move west. There are places like parramatta and maquarie park but everyone seems to be staying in the cbd at the moment
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Anyone going to bypass Church St to Homebush M4?

Is $4 (one way) fair?

Is the increase on the M5-East justified?

Do you think there'll be a traffic jam at Church St offramp in the mornings? And will it be only temporary?

If there's a traffic jam at Church St, will the offramp at Cumberland Hwy get congested?

Might the M4/M5 Toll cause you to switch to public transport?

People already get off at Church Street because after Church Street is where the worst congestion is already. Depends where you're going, though. Parramatta road will become more clogged if that's even possible.

The M4 is always riddle with accidents at the Homebush bay drive off ramp and the M4 stinks in general. Now we're going to have to pay for the pleasure of driving on it? For just 1 more lane? To me it's a lose lose.

I work and tend to travel outside of peak hour times so this does not benefit me at all.

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The Bogan Grand Master

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M5 original plans had 6 lanes, once contract was signed company cried poor and weak gov said OK to 4 lanes.

The only civil works in NSW with a eye to the future was the harbour bridge, from then on its been a joke.

I would vote for that car driver party but sadly they also support the gun happy people party who like killing furry animals with big guns so my kids are safe from kangaroos, rabbits and deer when we go camping.

Also need to fix freight rail to get trucks off the motorways, the trucks coming out from port botany are a joke, they have enlarged the port but not the infrastructure that supports it.

Bring on the Intermodal.

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