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I have a set of fedral 595's 23545ZR17 treadwear 240. and usually run 38psi. but have tried anything from 30 to 40psi.

they are on my R32 with the following relevant mods:

RB30DET producing 270rwkw 650nm torque

king low springs and fairly good shocks. cant remember if they are koni or bilstien,

solid alloy cradle bushes, adjustable swaybar set to medium, 2 - way (might as well be locked) nismo sss 2 - way diff

so my setup really should hold traction no problems. it did with the rb20det making 240rwkw but 1/2 the torque.

now with the rb30det there is no traction in 1st, 2nd and it breaks loose in 3rd even in a dead strait line

this means the car really is not that fast as you just cant get the power down. going lighter on the throttle increases lag and dosen't help.

What I need is some more traction. now don't get me wrong the fedrals are pretty good but don't do the job.

I can only go as wide as 265 before i get into clearance issues so i am looking at some 265's that can be used for street use. I don't mind if the treadwear is not the best.

is there something wring with my setup?

i know the alloy cradle bushed will not be helping but they eliminate axle tramp and i don't feel like pulling out my whole rear cradle at the moment.

cheers!

I dont think there is much wrong with you steup, nearly 300kw is always going to be hard to put down in a 32, let alone with a 30 bottom end

Going 265's will make the grip much better, you should think about heading towards a 595 rs-r, which is almost a semicomp and are still very reasonably priced.

Other than that softer springs and stuff in the rear

CEF11E,

What turbo your running?

I quite like mine at the moment as it is fairly friendly when it comes to throttle control.

The highflows are just nasty on the rb30's they punch way too hard through the mid range.

CEF11E,

What turbo your running?

I quite like mine at the moment as it is fairly friendly when it comes to throttle control.

The highflows are just nasty on the rb30's they punch way too hard through the mid range.

yep that's what I ma running :P a sliding RB25 hiflow.

its probably not doing my gearbox and diff a lot of good having that much power come on with such a kick,

Really do consider pushing in some cradle rake; when it wheel spins it noticeably still accelerates.

Prior it felt like it sat on the spot and wheel spun.

The Toyo Proxes 4 do have quite a soft side wall and the rubber is quite soft to touch. They have a 200 tread wear.

I'll be grabbing a set of RA1's on a second set of rims. Still in the size of 225/50/16's; I'm 'fairly' confident they will hold 300rwkw given these cheapo Proxes 4 are doing extremely well with 268rwkw as it is but obviously its not coming on as strong as yours. :D

Federal SS595

I had a problem after about 5 laps they were getting slick and loved to understeer. At abou 28-30 psi it got better, but still horrible

great drift tires though

Sounds about right, the T1R's arent cheap... Shop around though.

yeah

I just had a mate ring up for the same tyres at his work and quoted me $300 per corner, looks like ill grab therm at that price

just makes me wonder how much of a markup beaurepairs had on them :P

I have a set of fedral 595's 23545ZR17 treadwear 240. and usually run 38psi. but have tried anything from 30 to 40psi.

they are on my R32 with the following relevant mods:

RB30DET producing 270rwkw 650nm torque

king low springs and fairly good shocks. cant remember if they are koni or bilstien,

solid alloy cradle bushes, adjustable swaybar set to medium, 2 - way (might as well be locked) nismo sss 2 - way diff

so my setup really should hold traction no problems. it did with the rb20det making 240rwkw but 1/2 the torque.

now with the rb30det there is no traction in 1st, 2nd and it breaks loose in 3rd even in a dead strait line

this means the car really is not that fast as you just cant get the power down. going lighter on the throttle increases lag and dosen't help.

What I need is some more traction. now don't get me wrong the fedrals are pretty good but don't do the job.

I can only go as wide as 265 before i get into clearance issues so i am looking at some 265's that can be used for street use. I don't mind if the treadwear is not the best.

is there something wring with my setup?

i know the alloy cradle bushed will not be helping but they eliminate axle tramp and i don't feel like pulling out my whole rear cradle at the moment.

cheers!

CEF11E

Its the torque that is causing your traction problems, it will be hard to harness anything with over 600nm at the wheels, however if you were to go up to the 595RS-R you would notice a considerable amount more traction.

Nathan Weissel (305rwkw), Trent Whyte (440rwkw) and Eugene Arendsen (270rwkw) all drift on the 595RS or RS-R and all love them, they're able to get plenty of grip and control in slides and they even won the team drift at Eastern Creek at round 4 of D/A using them.

The RS-R is a softer compound semi slick version of the 595 and would suit your setup much more.

I hope this helps :thumbsup:

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hey guys. Im a bit over whelmed with trying to figure out what brand of tire and size would best suit me.

Im using r33 gtr rims on my r32. 17x9 from memory.

Im after a good all rounder. A good tire for street driving, but will hold on for those spirited hills drives and the track day here and there. Im not too sure on size either, i currently have 215/45's on all around. there is a lot of stretch. I was thinking something more on the lines of a 225/45? This will give a bit more tire to the road but will still have a good look.

I was looking on spending around $800 or so. I had toyo's in mind.

ANY advice and words of wisdom are appreciated.

Cheers, Josh

Edited by Lock_to_lock

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Hi Josh,

For $800, you probably can't go wrong with the Toyo Proxes-4.

The jury is still out about just how good the new Bridgestone RE001 Adrenalins are but they won't be quite down to the price you're after. And the ADVANs & NEOs are way above that budget. Even Kumho K104s have been undercut by Toyo.

So bang-for-your-bucks you're heading the right direction eh?

Cheers, T

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hey guys. Im a bit over whelmed with trying to figure out what brand of tire and size would best suit me.

Im using r33 gtr rims on my r32. 17x9 from memory.

Im after a good all rounder. A good tire for street driving, but will hold on for those spirited hills drives and the track day here and there. Im not too sure on size either, i currently have 215/45's on all around. there is a lot of stretch. I was thinking something more on the lines of a 225/45? This will give a bit more tire to the road but will still have a good look.

I was looking on spending around $800 or so. I had toyo's in mind.

ANY advice and words of wisdom are appreciated.

Cheers, Josh

Its highly unlikely that you will be able to get 225/45R17 Toyo's for $200 each... I believe that they retail for anywhere up to $290.00 in that size.

I wouldnt be going under 235/45R17 on a 9" wide rim either.

has any1 looked into the new toyo R1Rs http://www.toyo.com.au/Proxes%20R1R.htm. i know they might b expencive as im goin 2 b getting new rims soon and want 2 put a decent tyre on them as i do a bit of spirited driving and am gona be doing supersprints and an occasional track dayand want sumthing reasonable.

When i get back up and running i'm looking at a full slick or semi, car wont be on the street really.

looking ar around 300-400 per corner, or less

Hoosier r6, bf goodridge r1, A048, or any suggestions? i think i would rather try a full slick

looking on tirerack there is a bit of a selection but i am sure they could source more.

seems your paying around 100 shipping per tyre if its even worth it....

255/40/17 or there abouts.. on a R32 Gtr...

I use the 595RS every now and then for the street but mainly for the track, there are also a LOT of members using the RS for hillclimb and track events in the ACT forum, you should ask around in there.

Basically the 595 is a street tyre and not really meant for track use, however it will give you a bit of fun for a while, just dont expect to put down your best times.

595's are excellent for drift though, we have had multiple drifters tell us that they are one of the best tyres to drift on.

595RS is 2 steps up from the 595 in regards to track use, the RS has a much softer tread compound and has a much stiffer tread face due to a "low void ratio", this makes for a better footprint on the road while under hard braking, cornering, acceleration.

The RS is much much better for dry traction than the 595 but is a bit of a compromise in the wet (as any semi-slick is), if youre planning on using the RS as a street tyre you probably wont get the most out of them though (even though they have heaps of grip) as they work the best when they're hot (about 60 - 70 degrees).

Have a look at - www.federaltyres.com.au, www.federaltire.com.tw or www.federaltire.com for more info.

I hope that helps :(

The reason why I did not choose the rs's is because of their and your defamatory statements about them being a semi slick, they are not a proper semi-slick, they are a good tyre dont get me wrong but you should do some more research and stop with the lies.

I'll be grabbing a couple R1R's to throw on the back after the final tune. $230 a pop for 225/50 16's.

Apparently damn close to the RA1's in straight line grip but slightly softer sidewalls.

just picked me up a set of these on the weekend, awsome tyre so far. paid $218 per corner at tyre power seven hills in 225/50/16's, they've only been on the car for a few days but the improvement in cornering ability is very noticable, previously i was running toyo t1r's and although they're a very good tyre they just dont compare to the R1R's.

will deffinately be getting another set of these once they wear out. perfect if you dont want a full on semi slick

The reason why I did not choose the rs's is because of their and your defamatory statements about them being a semi slick, they are not a proper semi-slick, they are a good tyre dont get me wrong but you should do some more research and stop with the lies.

Open forums are wonderful places to air opinions and personal perceptions. They are also a place to pass on experience and knowledge to a broad base audience regarding new product opportunities.

Manufacturer consultation, personal experience, track days, and detailed feedback given to me are the basis for my comments and winners are grinners, so at the end of the day the product will be the ultimate governor of what works and what doesn’t.

Good luck with your tyre choice. :rofl:

I don't think you can defame yourself either... :action-smiley-069:

They are what they are. Even if they are the least grippy semi slick, they probably last the longest and they probably out grip plenty of more expensive street tyres. Tyre choice on one level is quite like turbo choice, you slide up and down a scale of:

Grip------------Longevity

Where you sit on that scale is personal choice. With turbos your scale is:

Laggy but powerful-----------Less power but less lag.

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