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Anyone interested might like to pick up a copy. Entertaining reading. Apparently all cars have been modded, some seriously (however the GTR ran basically stock times at the 1/4 mile, despite being tuned...). They ran some laps of Oran Park too... The GTR was beaten by the GT2 and Porsche by 0.5s and 0.2s respectively. The thing is, the GT2 was running hoosier r6's (basically slicks) and the Turbo was runninng Formula R Toyos. The GTR was running the OEM Bridgestones.... Why you would install $50k in mods and then run standard bridgestones isnt quite reality (if you're seriously interested in lap times that is). i know for a fact that the bridgestones are 2 seconds slower than r-specs on the GP circuit, which would easily translate into 1 second on south. Anyway, interesting reading nonetheless, but i reckon the GTR would have easily beaten the South times with equivilent tyres. In fact, i reckon even a standard GTR would have kicked the modded GT2 and Turbo's arses collectively, given the same tyres. Amazing really, given the price!

I would like to do this one; do you need to be a member of any particular club? I can pay tonight. Cheers

Really? hmm. I wonder why. How did you go at Oran Park, do you have any lap times? Pics vids?

OUt of interest, has anyone got clutch overheat/limp mode yet?

This is interesting. At a recent practice day (Oran Park) running an AP tune, i found my lap times actually went slightly backwards. Personally, i think it was due to the power coming on too strong, too quickly, turning the tyres and invoking power sapping traction control. I guess the solution is to drive with TC off, and anticipate wheelspin more delicately, however something that guarantees a better/smoother and more progressive application of power may just turn that situation around for me.

i've got the best result with LC2 in my ADM R35. 3.2s to 0~60mph (with cobb installed).

thanks Richard. Quick question: have you seen any R35's do Oran Park South? I have a track day there soon, interested in a good benchmark time. cheers

interesting, will be keen to see what you come up with for that customer this week. Please let us know how it goes

The first JDM and US models had the 4800rpm (VDC-off) launch function, call it "LC1". It was soon revised to the VDC-on capable launch, which all ADM cars have, call that "LC2". Cars in the US had LC2 offered as a reflash/revision by Nissan service depts. You can read all about the hundreds of people who have had the reflash done, on nagtroc, for example. Incidentally quite a number of tests with LC2 out-performed LC1, go figure.

100% brake, then smash the accelerator (hard) whilst keeping brake engaged. Revs should rise to 3000rpm, then release brake.

So the options seem to be a) Make custom seat brackets or b) Buy the Bride ones? Would the bride brackets work with other seats you reckon?

Managed to improve by one or two tenths last Sunday for a 1:16.76, every tenth is getting harder... Somewhat sloppy driving here, but hey, VDC may not have been turned on (but dont tell Nissan, ok?).....

I hear what you are saying, but did you actually try launch control and what times did you manage? I reckon you should go faster without it (if used properly). To answer the OP, yes it is there, if you use it (with VDC on) i believe you are "covered" - however if you do like 30 launches in a session (for example) i am sure that would probably constitute abuse and you would be rooted if you broke something. Common sense applies.

Depends on the 18" rim. I know of two or three that do fit the r35. I run the Enkie GTC-01 18x10x22 and they work fine.

I have about 10 used 295/35/18" RE55 (medium compound) tyres for sale. $100 each. Should be good for a couple of extra track days. These work great on R35 with 18x10" rims. Will post up pics soon. Run out of room in my garage, need these sold. Sydney pickup only.

interesting Martin. I guess this makes sense.

makes sense, thanks Richard

This leads me to a question i should know the answer for... when you turn VDC off, what exactly is turned off? Is it just the traction control mechnaism? What about torque split (front vs rear) and god know's whatever else is in the system?

If you cant take an R35 on the track, it would be a waste of money.

Driver training is probably never a bad thing, especially for amateurs like myself. But i dont think that's the primary issue here. It sure is easy/tempting to suggest that though; most people that have not driven the R35 on the track think it drives itself. That's probably true to an extent... up to about 80% of the cars potential. That extra 10 to 20% isnt a cake walk. Anyway, with normal power, in R mode, on the track, with RE55's, i don't feel VDC kick in, ever - unless i've made a huge error. However with (significantly) more power, it seems to break loose much more easily. Extra slip isnt necessary a bad thing, in fact i reckon a certain percetage of slip is required for the absolute quickest times (dependig on tyres). However the VDC calibration only allows so much slip. No amount of tuition is going to get around this - it's a hardware/calibration issue. The answer is, be content with standard power OR be prepared to turn VDC (and your warranty) OFF. It's probably a non-issue, given anyone running a tune probably doesnt have a warranty anyway. This is just a heads up/fyi for R35 owners, and what to expect when you add gobbs of power

I recently added some more power to my R35, whilst it was great for simple straight line stuff (running 11.1 @ 125mph at WSID) i found that my circuit laps times have actually gone backwards (!). My conclusion: the extra power is inducing VDC/Traction Control "events" (wheel slip) and pulling power. Background: If you've ever forgotten to put your R35 in 'R' mode on the circuit, you will have noticed/heard/felt the system working each corner of the car, with the threshold of slip being rather pessimistic. However put the car into 'R' mode - the system then allows a higher degree of slip & yaw, less instrusive & better laps times, and more fun... Anyway, with the aftermarket tune - say +60rwkw - 'R' mode seems like 'non-R' mode used to! (on the circuit anyway). I think the extra power is overwhelming the delicately tuned 'R' mode thresholds built into the VDC calibration. So... consider this a heads up! Adding gobbs of power isnt going to immediately translate into quicker lap times. Unless you're comfortable turning VDC off, and driving the thing on your wits alone. The sprint series i am in doesnt allow aftermmarket tunes, so i need to remove the tune anyway (for this coming weekend) but i thought this might spark some debate on the matter. Perhaps some others have tried adding significsant power to the R35, very interested in your thoughts (in a circuit racing context).

hopefully we'll get some unbiased reviews soon. either way being the first r compound 20", they should sell well for the casual track day warriors

I really think the lower profile on these is going to let them down (for our heavy cars). Happy to be proven otherwise though.

FWIW guys i have been using Ferodo DS2500 pads, about $490 (fronts) and $440 (rears) - i think these are the closest to stocker pads you will find. I've run them at the track a few times are they are very comparable to stocker performance, progressive feel and noise (not really squeaky at all). Send me a PM if you want a contact to buy these.

Paul, are you putting a cage in it?