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Hey there,

I'm aware of the RZ supra & GTT pole, though I have to ask as these cars are fairly similar in price and performance etc.

For those who have had experience in/with either what do you think?

My younger sister is going to buy a car and she's keen for either a

Mitsubishi FTO GP vR or a Toyota Supra SZ

I think they'd both be excellent cars -

The FTO has the mivec (same as vtec) and it sounds pretty farrking awesome, then again the SZ for a NA hauls ass like, what do you guys recon??

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both cars are nice, fto for better fuel consumption, but supras looks better imo

i heard fto's dont handle that well, than again thats just from friends saying, no actual proof,

price wise, fto is prob cheaper

but if im choosing the two cars for myself, ill go for the supra anyday

FTO Version R is a direct competitor to the Integra Type-R.

I've driven a FTO GPX and it's a really great NA drive - the steering is more than precise.

With the FTOs level of power, torque steer is non-existent.

Also, I'm pretty sure the FTO would be cheaper for insurance.

hey wink

is she getting the auto/tiptronic fto? the tip/auto on the fto is super slow for some strange reason

imo, supra wins in terms of looks and potential.. n/a supras are very quick for n/a cars

however, fto is good for a new driver, fuel efficiency and handles great =)

Get the FTO.

If you're going a Supra, you get the RZ, not the SZ. So if you're not interested in that model, avoid Supra's altogether. You're much better off with the top-model FTO than the bottom-model Supra.

Not to mention that MIVEC roar... :P

If we were talking RZ Supra or FTO, there would be no argument. But if you get the SZ, you're always secretly going to be wishing it was an RZ.

Just like people that get GTS-T's, spend all kinds of money doing em up, then still want a GT-R, though they've spent more than enough in mods to have already bought one.

GO THE FTO

Amazing how many experts come out of the woodwork when it comes to trying to slag FWD, and yet setup properly it can be extremely quick and safe in almost all conditions. Chances are most sledgers have never driven a decent FWD, let alone taken any car onto the racetrack. My own driveway boasts a GTR33, 2 GTS25t's, a Soarer V8 and a Lynx which I have had bags of fun in having setup the suspension nicely. It wouldn't be there if it didn't deserve to be and I'd have an FTO in a flash if the driveway wasn't full. Maybe a GP VerR in a year or so.

The FTO is a sensational car if you can find a manual and perfect around town in auto. Not quite in the league of the Honda Type Rs but I've never driven a version R FTO so maybe it has a little extra. Torque steer is not a problem unless you are trying to drive like a tool and inducing wheelspin.

At the end of the day it's the lady's choice and having helped a number of my young lady friends choose and haggle for a good price on cars she'd probably be much happier with the FTO. Smaller dimensions so easier to park at the shopping centres (important for ladies), good storage space for all the end FY sale bargains at the shops, doesn't need a big kit to look finished off like the Supra needs, not as high risk for theft, back seats for the girlfriends and will be good on fuel.

Good luck shopping.

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