Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 145
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Have you thought bout stroker kits for supra? ,what bout 3.4lt kit from american brand 'Titan' for supra, or 3.4lt from HKS, these would increase torque and power levels beyond of what any RB engine can pump out.

Its true bout what people have said bout its job, being poorly executed, maybe Top Secret might should'ev done it, this idea, they did it with a supra, with RB26.

Why not? awesome car with an awesome engine?

i love nissans and even i will admit that the 2JZGTE totally f*cking PWNS any nissan engine.

1000hp off standard internals? holyshit!

They are awesome engines coupled with an awesome car.

I would just like to stir the pot a little. Where was the MIGHTY 2JZ when the Gibson Racing R32 GTR's were absolutely destroying the V8's and for that fact everything else around Bathurst in the early 1990's?

Has the mighty Supra ever set a production car lap record around the Nurnburgring? Stock standard?

Hmm let me think about that one for a minute... Which car has more heritage? The whale or the racing car that was banned for being too fast... If you live your life a quarter mile at a time then go buy a fully sick supra. I used to dream about owing a Skyline as a kid and now I have one and I dont give a s**t if a supra is faster in a 10 second run.

Edited by Chris_R33GTSt
Hmm let me think about that one for a minute... Which car has more heritage? The whale or the racing car that was banned for being too fast....

fairly common misconception there.

the entire group A series was axed.

they didnt just ban the GTR's.

Edited by scandyflick
I would just like to stir the pot a little. Where was the MIGHTY 2JZ when the Gibson Racing R32 GTR's were absolutely destroying the V8's and for that fact everything else around Bathurst in the early 1990's?

Has the mighty Supra ever set a production car lap record around the Nurnburgring? Stock standard?

Hmm let me think about that one for a minute... Which car has more heritage? The whale or the racing car that was banned for being too fast... If you live your life a quarter mile at a time then go buy a fully sick supra. I used to dream about owing a Skyline as a kid and now I have one and I dont give a s**t if a supra is faster in a 10 second run.

The topic went to Motor VS Motor, champ. Not complete car around the Nurnburgring.

Who gives a shit about heritage. You make out like mass production GTR’s are some super rare race thoroughbred ‘s.

I have nothing against Skylines, or Nissans in fact. I’ve owned 6 of the damn things over a period of 4 years and enjoyed every moment, the fact is the 1jz and the 2jz are a far better engineered motor from factory, respond to bolt on mod’s better and are cable of producing more power on stock internals.

2jz @ 1000hp wont last long, ask any of th supra guys, though a little milder tune will see far more power standing the test of time than the 2.6 .

keep awd the 2jz pawns the rb26, wieght is comparable (block), power across the rev range and mods require for continuous high rpm easily pawned. sequential twins as opposed to non-"twin scoll" manifold setup is simply better spool + power across the range. injector sizing, cams, (specifially the vvti <97+>), and the bigger brakes 95+ owns.

unladen wieght is slightly more... but not much more and when you add mods and therefore "generally" more wieght its generally the same.. unless your building an all out track weapon and spend some $$$ on lighter bolt ons.

power to wieght and general street work with part time track use the 2jz owns... as is the consensus here.

2jz + awd would be an interesting car but as said .... EXPENSIVE !!

p.s. 2jz @ wot sounds like sex

2jz > rb26

but the 2.6 is nothing to sneeze @ either eh. not a worth while swap $$$ wise but far more easily livable on the street while making comparable power with less $$$ spent not counting the conversion costs eh ?

this thread is hilarious!!

you have most of the nissan hating the 2J saying the 26 is better

you have some nissan guys respecting the 2J knowing it is superior to the 26

$ for $, the 2J will always come out on top of the 26

strokers, built bottomends, everything

the 2J will always make more power and torque

im sure that if you put the 2J into the gtr and kept 4wd then it would sh1t all over anything!!

its something im looking at doing in the near future but not to a 34, prob a 33

a 3.4lt 2J with a 88-90mm turbo 4wd GTR would be 1 awesome car!!

also, as to power output, the 2J lives easily on 800rwhp on std internals

im currently building a 2J for my VL but with a built head and bottomend

every1 knows that the 2j is better

also, i love the conversion, its different but it could have been done alot better!!

There are plenty of 10 second RB25 GTS-T. in Australia, more out there than GTRs I know for certain. Plus easy 11s with my Mods? Yeah tool and its 4WD so its idiot Proof.

Would you care to explain why a 25 is so inferior? I suppose RB30s are inferior as well. Thats why they run 8 second passes as well with a single cam head.

Explanation : RB26DETT GTR's that Run in the 7's, HKS R33 GTR, Heat Treatment R32 GTR, Veilside R32 GTR, Duke Racing R33 GTR.

to put in simple terms since you are so thick 7 is qucker than an 8

PS YOU ARE A DICKHEAD

Explanation : RB26DETT GTR's that Run in the 7's, HKS R33 GTR, Heat Treatment R32 GTR, Veilside R32 GTR, Duke Racing R33 GTR.

to put in simple terms since you are so thick 7 is qucker than an 8

PS YOU ARE A DICKHEAD

compare those "7 sec gtr's" to the drag supras over in the states running 6's. the supras that run 8's are full trim, street driven. those 7 sec gtr's are stripped, carbon everything etc.

get your facts right before u go flaming people :P

compare those "7 sec gtr's" to the drag supras over in the states running 6's. the supras that run 8's are full trim, street driven. those 7 sec gtr's are stripped, carbon everything etc.

get your facts right before u go flaming people :thumbsup:

Sorry but wasn't he talking about GTST's/GTT's and VL's? Not Supra's?

Dan.

What a ridiculous thing to do. IMO if you are buying an R34 GTR you buy it for the package and the fact that it is a R34 GTR and that it comes as with the RB26 which is already a capable motor. I can see that sort of conversion fitting well in a R32 GTR but in a R34 GTR it is just stupid. People with too much money I say.

compare those "7 sec gtr's" to the drag supras over in the states running 6's. the supras that run 8's are full trim, street driven. those 7 sec gtr's are stripped, carbon everything etc.

get your facts right before u go flaming people :wave:

Im not talking about Supra's

How about you put some glasses on and get YOUR facts right quickdraw :laugh:

as they said in "Bad Boys"

"back the fcuk up, put the gun(s) down, and get me a packet of tropical fruit bubbalicious"

Everyone take a chill pill

That car is fcuking ugly.

1JZ 2JZ RB26 etc - who cares?

give me a M5 V10 and let's play supercharger.

hahahahahaha... is it juz me or has the topic totaly changed... i think a 2jz in a 34gtr trim would b the ultimate street car... from the pics the job looks pretty crap but maybe they already got the car that way and since it was half ruinned they thought let try something different..

i love skylines but it is common fact that 2jz and 1jz are cheaper and better engines then rb26 / 25... but for me the overall benefits of puttin a 2jz into a gtr would be hardly worth the $$$ or the hastle... but then again these guys obviously dont care about that... i actually read an article in zoom a few months ago where a guy had a 2jz lying around so he chucked it into his r32 gtst.. and now he runs easy 9s in a full trim street car with fairly mild mods (for a 9 sec car)... i guess if u got the $$$ and the means to do it then go for it but i know if i had the $$$ i would just buy a mine's gtr from japan and im sure i b more then happy...

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • OK, so again it has been a bit of a break but it was around researching what had been done since I didn't have access to Neil's records and not everything is obvious without pulling stuff apart. Happily the guy who assembled the engine had kept reasonable records, so we now know the final spec is: Bottom end: Standard block and crank Ross 86.5mm forgies, 9:1 compression Spool forged rods Standard main bolts Oil pump Spool billet gears in standard housing Aeroflow extended and baffled sump Head Freshly rebuilt standard head with new 80lb valve springs Mild porting/port match Head oil feed restrictor VCT disabled Tighe 805C reground cams (255 duration, 8.93 lift)  Adjustable cam gears on inlet/exhaust Standard head bolts, gasket not confirmed but assumed MLS External 555cc Nismo injectors Z32 AFM Bosch 023 Intank fuel pump Garret 2871 (factory housings and manifold) Hypertune FFP plenum with standard throttle   Time to book in a trip to Unigroup
    • I forgot about my shiny new plates!
    • Well, apparently they do fit, however this wont be a problem if not because the car will be stationary while i do the suspension work. I was just going to use the 16's to roll the old girl around if I needed to. I just need to get the E90 back on the road first. Yes! I'm a believer! 🙌 So, I contacted them because the site kinda sucks and I was really confused about what I'd need. They put together a package for me and because I was spraying all the seat surfaces and not doing spot fixes I decided not to send them a headrest to colour match, I just used their colour on file (and it was spot on).  I got some heavy duty cleaner, 1L of colour, a small bottle of dye hardener and a small bottle of the dye top coat. I also got a spray gun as I needed a larger nozzle than the gun I had and it was only $40 extra. From memory the total was ~$450 ish. Its not cheap but the result is awesome. They did add repair bits and pieces to the quote originally and the cost came down significantly when I said I didn't need any repair products. I did it over a weekend. The only issues I had were my own; I forgot to mix the hardener into the dye two coats but I had enough dye for 2 more coats with the hardener. I also just used up all the dye because why not and i rushed the last coat which gave me some runs. Thankfully the runs are under the headrests. The gun pattern wasn't great, very round and would have been better if it was a line. It made it a little tricky to get consistent coverage and I think having done the extra coats probably helped conceal any coverage issues. I contacted them again a few months later so I could get our X5 done (who the f**k thought white leather was a good idea for a family car?!) and they said they had some training to do in Sydney and I could get a reduced rate on the leather fix in the X5 if I let them demo their product on our car. So I agreed. When I took Bec in the E39 to pick it up, I showed them the job I'd done in my car and they were all (students included) really impressed. Note that they said the runs I created could be fixed easily at the time with a brush or an air compressor gun. So, now with the two cars done I can absolutely recommend Colourlock.  I'll take pics of both interiors and create a new thread.
    • Power is fed to the ECU when the ignition switch is switched to IGN, at terminal 58. That same wire also connects to the ECCS relay to provide both the coil power and the contact side. When the ECU sees power at 58 it switches 16 to earth, which pulls the ECCS relay on, which feeds main power into the ECU and also to a bunch of other things. None of this is directly involved in the fuel pump - it just has to happen first. The ECU will pull terminal 18 to earth when it wants the fuel pump to run. This allows the fuel pump relay to pull in, which switches power on into the rest of the fuel pump control equipment. The fuel pump control regulator is controlled from terminal 104 on the ECU and is switched high or low depending on whether the ECU thinks the pump needs to run high or low. (I don't know which way around that is, and it really doesn't matter right now). The fuel pump control reg is really just a resistor that controls how the power through the pump goes to earth. Either straight to earth, or via the resistor. This part doesn't matter much to us today. The power to the fuel pump relay comes from one of the switched wires from the IGN switch and fusebox that is not shown off to the left of this page. That power runs the fuel pump relay coil and a number of other engine peripherals. Those peripherals don't really matter. All that matters is that there should be power available at the relay when the key is in the right position. At least - I think it's switched. If it's not switched, then power will be there all the time. Either way, if you don't have power there when you need it (ie, key on) then it won't work. The input-output switching side of the relay gains its power from a line similar (but not the same as) the one that feeds the ECU. SO I presume that is switched. Again, if there is not power there when you need it, then you have to look upstream. And... the upshot of all that? There is no "ground" at the fuel pump relay. Where you say: and say that pin 1 Black/Pink is ground, that is not true. The ECU trigger is AF73, is black/pink, and is the "ground". When the ECU says it is. The Blue/White wire is the "constant" 12V to power the relay's coil. And when I say "constant", I mean it may well only be on when the key is on. As I said above. So, when the ECU says not to be running the pump (which is any time after about 3s of switching on, with no crank signal or engine speed yet), then you should see 12V at both 1 and 2. Because the 12V will be all the way up to the ECU terminal 18, waiting to be switched to ground. When the ECU switches the fuel pump on, then AF73 should go to ~0V, having been switched to ground and the voltage drop now occurring over the relay coil. 3 & 5 are easy. 5 is the other "constant" 12V, that may or may not be constant but will very much want to be there when the key is on. Same as above. 3 goes to the pump. There should never be 12V visible at 3 unless the relay is pulled in. As to where the immobiliser might have been spliced into all this.... It will either have to be on wire AF70 or AF71, whichever is most accessible near the alarm. Given that all those wires run from the engine bay fusebox or the ECU, via the driver's area to the rear of the car, it could really be either. AF70 will be the same colour from the appropriate fuse all the way to the pump. If it has been cut and is dangling, you should be able to see that  in that area somewhere. Same with AF71.   You really should be able to force the pump to run. Just jump 12V onto AF72 and it should go. That will prove that the pump itself is willing to go along with you when you sort out the upstream. You really should be able to force the fuel pump relay on. Just short AF73 to earth when the key is on. If the pump runs, then the relay is fine, and all the power up to both inputs on the relay is fine. If it doesn't run (and given that you checked the relay itself actually works) then one or both of AF70 and AF71 are not bringing power to the game.
    • @PranK can you elaborate further on the Colorlock Dye? The website has a lot of options. I'm sure you've done all the research. I have old genuine leather seats that I have bought various refurbing creams and such, but never a dye. Any info on how long it lasts? Does it wash out? Is it a hassle? What product do I actually need? Am I just buying this kit and following the steps the page advises or something else? https://www.colourlockaustralia.com.au/colourlock-leather-repair-kit-dye.html
×
×
  • Create New...