Scooby Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) The GTR/GTS4's run a block/sump adaptot plate so it also lowers the sump down slightly.Anotonys GTS4, everything is VERY close. The bonnet had to be cut as the cam belt cover was touching. my adapter plate is only about 8mm thick, hopefully there was more clearance than that with the RB26. just had a look in the engine bay, the steering rack looks higher than the crossmember. Edited February 13, 2007 by Scooby Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2903708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33_racer Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 and i thought the gtr conversion wasnt that much more difficult then a gtst...seems like there is more to it then meets the eye! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2903718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanef Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 shanef i have seen spacer plates put in between the crossmember and the chassie rail befor to get the motor down lower thats one thing to consider if i dont sort this problem out... Shane, I have cut about 100mm piece out of the one of the under bonnt supports where it hits the cam belt cover, now my bonnet shuts and just clears.What turbos you using there? the turbo's u see there in the photo's are the R34 N1's, i just put them on with the dumps attached to see what type of clearance i had/didnt have between the firewall, which it seems like i dont need to mod them! (still gotta double check) but im swapping these turbo's for a set of Trust T618z Hi Shane, not sure what's going on there. Cross member clearance shouldn't be a problem, the deck height is increased at the upper end of the block from the top of the water pump upwards. And the bonnet should well and truly close if you can fit a strut brace under there, the're a lot higher than 38mm above the cam covers. The engine is supposed to be on a bit of an angle but the clearance should still be good. Try looking on the GTROC UK site for comparison pics http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/52458-rb...ight=r32+combat at the risk of stating the obvious it seems that the whole engine is tilted way to far up at the front and that's what is causing the sump to hit at the rear. thanks mate, i frequent those forums alot, they're a great bunch hey the things that got me is that the rb26 engine mounts are sitting flat on the engine mounts on the rails! but the fronts tilted like a mofo! The GTR/GTS4's run a block/sump adaptot plate so it also lowers the sump down slightly.Anotonys GTS4, everything is VERY close. The bonnet had to be cut as the cam belt cover was touching. adapter plate is only 10mm, so pretty much fark all (surely thered be better clearance from factory than 10mm) i'll go outside and grab some photo's. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2904005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanef Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 took these pics just before: RHS Mount LHS Mount The area where the diff/sump rests on the cross member How far the engine is lifted at the front Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2904083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky30 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Shane, have you got the mounts bolted to the block using the correct holes in the block, i think there are 6 holes where the mounts can be bolted up. i will take a pic of mine if i remember 2moro. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2904106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanef Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 im fairly certian they are, as i farked around for a good hour or so trying different combo's between the gtr and rb30 mounts to fit it properly, but i'll certainly double check that when i pull it out. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2904113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bl4cK32 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 have u got the GB in and bolted up yet? That tilts the motor up in the rear a bit...you motor is sitting way high in the front, and too low in the rear... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2904724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRacer Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 ive read a few times that rx7 series 2 engine mounts lower the engine alot. ive never even seen these mounts so couldnt confirm nor comment however if someone wants to investigate that would be interesting Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2905437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolup Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 qik visit back to my brain straining issue. Pulled the wastegate off, checked that it is sealing, checked that it is working with compressed air, all is fine. No diaphram leaks and no leaks on the intake side. Still it will not boost past 0.7 bar. Ive put a 20 psi spring in, tried disconnecting the gate altogether, boost pressure to the bottom of the gate, to the top of the gate to both top and bottom. Makes no sense at all ???? Help Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2905490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanef Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 broken hose somewhere? cooler pipe not properly sealed? its escaping somewhere! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2905497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolup Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 nope - checked the intake side from turbo to plenum - holds 1 bar pressure no problems broken hose somewhere? cooler pip not properly sealed? its escaping somewhere! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2905505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r33_racer Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 extremely weird i must say. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2905679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolup Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 annoying part is - that it was running consistent 16 psi previous to me removing the spring the first time Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2905685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craved Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 annoying part is - that it was running consistent 16 psi previous to me removing the spring the first time makes me not want to remove my 1.2Bar spring from my new Wastegate definately a puzzling thing Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2905848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Nothing else changed at the same time? this is a really troubling problem. How is the fuel pump pressure now? It's about the only other thing I can think of right now. Engine with the machinist this morning. Aust post suck for being so slow but all goodies now in place for extreme funness!!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2905922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolup Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 fuel pressure is all fine at .7 bar - cant get it over that to find out :-) Im going to block off the wastegate hole in the manifold tomorrow and go for a very cautious drive - at least it will narrow down my troubleshooting. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2906012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 im fairly certian they are, as i farked around for a good hour or so trying different combo's between the gtr and rb30 mounts to fit it properly, but i'll certainly double check that when i pull it out. i'm voting that there's some funnyness with the mounts. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2906016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanef Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Nothing else changed at the same time? this is a really troubling problem. How is the fuel pump pressure now? It's about the only other thing I can think of right now.Engine with the machinist this morning. Aust post suck for being so slow but all goodies now in place for extreme funness!!!! they wouldnt be 2860-10's would they geoff i'm voting that there's some funnyness with the mounts. yeah more than likely, will find out on the weekend i spose. cheers for the ideas though guys Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2906084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Stock turbos Shane...well the housings anyway. See it says AR .42 so legal as Brad, good luck with that and be careful. Scooby, I don't have your number to return your call. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2906090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 How does the weight of the Spool rods compare to the Eagle and Rev rods? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/237/#findComment-2906207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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