R33 Skyline Non-turbo Or N14 Sss Sr20de Pulsar

[brady89]

My mate is looking to buy a R33 Skyline or either a N14 sss and spend say 5k on engine mod's,what car would you rather drive and what would be quicker over the 1/4?? I've heard stock R33 non-turbo's arent that quick but he's not sure what he wants to do. Im not sure what to tell him either as i havent driven or been in a non-turbo 33. I know i can expect biased answers being on a 'skyline' forum but just thought id ask.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Brady

Edited February 26, 2007 by brady89

[32vspecII]

na skyline is very slow and boring

sss pulsars can be interesting with mods

a friend had one that was as quick as my stock s13 sr20 turbo , had exhaust , intake , chip and was lighter

[jeffers1987]

hahha most r33 skyline turbos are slow so i would expect this to be a tug boat not just a boat. go the pulsar.

[brady89]

if he mod's the pulsar he'll have about 105kw ATW (75kwstock) weighing round 1150kg

Edited February 26, 2007 by brady89

[SECURITY]

my mate put a built fwd sr20det into a normal pulsar. it weighs around 1000kg all up and spins through every gear. with some semi's it would do low 12s pretty easily.

[brady89]

he's only on his p's so he wont be able to turbo the pulsar for another 2 years, but still with the mods he'll do if he gets the pulsar he can expect to be running mid to high 14's

Edited February 26, 2007 by brady89

[ctjet]

Pulsar by a mile... why you would buy a non-turbo skyine is beyond me

[Munkyb0y]

a skyline with no turbo is like a fat kid with no cake. no one's happy.

[brady89]

thanks for all the reply's... no-one has seemed to say go the skyline non-turbo... expected atleast a few people to say go the r33

Edited February 26, 2007 by brady89

[ctjet]

its not that its slow dude... if you had the choice, it kind of defeats the purpose of it all by going non-turbo when a turbo is about 11ty billion times better

PS. lol sif call me stupid.... i kill you beetch

[GTshortie]

Get the Pulsar or a HOnda Civic Vti-r for similar money if you can afford it

Don't bother wasting too much money on modding it just drive it around cheap mods and when you reach the age/full licence get your turbo car and enjoy

my 2c.

[someonestolecc]

a skyline with no turbo is like a fat kid with no cake. no one's happy.

LOL so true.

I wouldn't go either, or atleast I wouldn't do up the pulsar. The SSS stock is probably it, maybe some suspension and be happy, anything else is a waste of money... definately not the r33 NA.

Actually on second thoughts.. the NA r33 would have to be the worst skyline evar.

[ctjet]

err... R31 non turbs?

that slow AND ugly as hell

[Freddy Kruger]

i drove my skyline on low boost for a few days (6-7psi) and that sucked arse something chronic. imagine a NA

[Big Rizza]

Have you also considered:

Renaultsport Clio 172

Honda Civic VTi

Honda CRX

Peugeot 205 GTi

Mitsubishi FTO

Toyota MR2

S15 Silvia AUTECH (147kw non-turbo)

Mitsubishi Magna VRX

HSV XU6

XU6 apparently meets VIC power to weight rules, not sure about rulings in other states. My home state of WA doesn't have this P-Plate restriction cr@p, so I don't pay too much attention.

Not necessarily saying any of these are better or worse then the Skyline or SSS, just showing you that there are heaps of other options around for a solid first car.

[mad082]

the missus has a n15 sss pulsar (used to be mine). with just extractors, 2" exhaust, with centre muffler and rear muffler (not cannon), and a k&n panel filter and it dyno'd at just over 112hp (about 84kw).

they torque steer a bit in first gear, but are great fun to drive. and will just beat falcons and commodores. you just have to rev them. without extractors they start to choke at about 5500rpm, but with them they come alive and pull hard till redline (7500rpm).

i can't comment on the NA r33, but i think it wouldn't be as fun as the pulsar.

will also add that the pulsars are very reliable.

Edited February 28, 2007 by mad082

[R TUNE]

facts:

r33 na

(pos) rb25de eng

RWD

easy to mod

funn to drive

n15sss pulsar

sr20de

fwd

easy to get eng mods

toqure stear.

mychoice

r31 skyline apx 1500-4000g rwd

3.0L 6 cyl

easy to turbo, can get manual,

can spend so much more then if to buy a 33 or n15 as u would have more cash left over

or get r31 gts-r coupe with a rb20det 2dr and still cheap to buy apx 8k

[R TUNE]

facts:

r33 na

(pos) rb25de eng

RWD

easy to mod

funn to drive

n15sss pulsar

sr20de

fwd

easy to get eng mods

toqure stear.

mychoice

r31 skyline apx 1500-4000g rwd

3.0L 6 cyl

easy to turbo, can get manual,

can spend so much more then if to buy a 33 or n15 as u would have more cash left over

or get r31 gts-r coupe with a rb20det 2dr and still cheap to buy apx 8k

the reason why i say to get the 31 is that it is a beginers car, its easy to drive and fun to drive, it may not be the farstest but if u'r just learing its pretty good to start of whith. then do some mods of u'r choiseing and then u can have a pretty decent car that would probably cost the same as a r33 and be for unique.

[Link]

Get a nice ti pulsar - cheaper insurance and it has the same running gear as the sss

We just sold ours to buy my r33 (heh ) but i loved driving it - was lowered, exhaust, stereo...fun daily

[maclarenf1]

err... R31 non turbs?

that slow AND ugly as hell

Took the words right out of my mouth ......wait till the full license mate and get a proper Skyline....and by the looks of R33 Pricess in a another 2 years you can buy one for free....oh...the owner might give you some $$$.