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Daleo Grand Master

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I'm amazed at the positive feedback everyone has about them; my experience was so shockingly different, I simply will not use anything they make.

Motul & Silkolene (Fuchs) are the only oils that go anywhere near my engines.

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Sunkist Grand Master

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I'm amazed at the positive feedback everyone has about them; my experience was so shockingly different, I simply will not use anything they make.

Motul & Silkolene (Fuchs) are the only oils that go anywhere near my engines.

well what they make anymore.

the sougi is good. but obviously no more of that.. i got 2 bottles left lol

scotty nm35 Grand Master

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I asked the guys at Autobarn if they had heard of Sougi, they hadn't even though they are one of the largest GW stockists for automotive. They told me the rep had said nothing about it and just stocked the shelf with the cheap crap. They rang Repco and Bursons for me to chase some up, they had never heard of it/stocked it either.

Great marketing GW. :thumbsup: I wonder why it never took off? hahahahahahahha

iamhe77 Grand Master

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no i meant as in maybe 1kw less.. as its quality isnt up there with sougi..

Please don't say shit like that mate, it's embarrassing.

You simply can't judge an oil quality by power figures.

Sure, you can get a decent power loss by using an oil that is much too thick (see Sin, Penrite), but c'mon man, saying a 1kw drop in power could be expected because an oil is of near quality to another oil is like saying that my hands are warmer today because I wore my Rivers shoes instead of my sneakers.

Daleo Grand Master

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Yeah, I agree Scotty.

After all the raving people did about Sougi, they're literally on my doorstep so that's why I went there. This was ages ago too, long before it was discontinued.

I can't imagine why you would recommend a bargain basement oil (of the wrong weight) to a customer who is looking for a high performance product.

wht510 Experienced

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Sometimes sales people will recommend products because they have a quota to make, or there's a deal if the sales person sells 10 of these they get one free.

I like Penrite products, because they always answer my technical questions with fact and engineered experiments. I like to try and support local product and Penrite have been Australian owned since 1926!

I have ran most of my motors using Penrite and the condition they are in (wear on bores etc. cam wear, big end bearing wear etc.) excellent condition.

Give MotoFluid in Bayswater VIC a call. They are a Penrite stockist and provide discount for bulk purchase (20L drum anyone?)

PLUS they are HEAVILY involved in motorsport including support club racing/sprints etc. One of the tech guys there (Ken) has had numerous Datsun 1600's and other non important cars :whistling:, and has a fair bit of experience with oils. Good bloke and has a vast amount of experience/knowledge with a no bullshit approach.

Sunkist Grand Master

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Please don't say shit like that mate, it's embarrassing.

You simply can't judge an oil quality by power figures.

Sure, you can get a decent power loss by using an oil that is much too thick (see Sin, Penrite), but c'mon man, saying a 1kw drop in power could be expected because an oil is of near quality to another oil is like saying that my hands are warmer today because I wore my Rivers shoes instead of my sneakers.

I repeat: THIS IS WHAT THE "ENGINEERS" AT GW TOLD ME.

and also it is a fact that your body tempreture can rise or drop dependant on the shoes you wear. heat comes in through your feet and out your head. :nyaanyaa:

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iamhe77 Grand Master

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Sorry mate, missed your reference to the "engineer".... especially going from when you typed;

no i meant as in maybe 1kw less.. as its quality isnt up there with sougi..

Fair enough though, can't believe how hard GW fail sometimes.

Dale, agree on Fuchs, I used the 5w40 Titan Super Syn a while ago and the car felt "more together" than when using Mobil 1.

It is a Group IV oil I believe and reasonably priced.

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bigkevracer Grand Master

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I havent used the Castrol, but someone on here or m35stagea.info called it cheap shit.

Im using Valvoline fully synthetic at the moment, seems fine, but when the free stash runs out Ill probably switch to Motul or Royal Purple, whatevers easier to get.

My local Repco have Motul 300v but theres bugger all discount and Im pretty sure I have to buy 4+1 litres...

slippylotion Mentor

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I used castrol 5-30 in my SR when it was running E85 making 275rwkw on 17psi and found it fine on the track. Only ever ran it during winter with a nsimo thermostat keeping the engine on a max of 72deg. Currently only use Shell helix 10w-40 semi syn in it with no dramas at all. Not sure how it would go during summer running at normal temps, it's also near on the factory grade too.

The CTS drift 180sx running over 350rwkw was running castrol 10w-60 so it can't be all bad.

My m35 will be delivered to my mates compliance shop tomorrow (earlier than I expected) for compliance so will go shopping this weekend for parts to do a service.

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bigkevracer Grand Master

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Eeek. I'll rather use castrol then valvoline!

Why? I checked with them and its as high a grade as the Castrol etc.

The stuff Im using is left over from a supply Valvoline gave dad for his Jackaroo when he was competing in the Safari rallies. Seemed alright for that, and it was exposed to all kinds of dirt and crap. Engine is still fine.

iamhe77 Grand Master

iamhe77

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Eeek. I'll rather use castrol then valvoline!

Actually the Valvoline Syn Power 5w40 is a pretty good oil.

Not the best synthetic you can get, but you could do a lot worse.

The only Castrol that you'd touch is the German Castrol (labelled "Syntech 0w30"), but I think that as as scarce as Sougi S6000 these days.

wht510 Experienced

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lol, marketing.

The Nulon "fully synthetic" oils are a mineral base. Not a good oil at all. :nuke::nuke::nuke:

Most oils which say "Fully Synthetic" are not 100% synthetic. I think only certain oils (such as motuls 300V for example) state they are 100% synthetic or 100% ester based.

iamhe77 Grand Master

iamhe77

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Most oils which say "Fully Synthetic" are not 100% synthetic. I think only certain oils (such as motuls 300V for example) state they are 100% synthetic or 100% ester based.

Yes, I think that the court ruling was that if the oil is a minimum of 70% synthetic, it could be marketed as "fully synthetic".

There are more than Motul though... Redline and Amsoil are two that I can think of immediately that are 100% synthetic.

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