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im in the process of buying a stagea series 2 awd but im having trouble deciding weather to get a manual or a tiptronic i know nothing about the tiptronic can any1 help me??

i wanna know for performance whats better and the pro's and cons of them both cheers guys

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well there are a few manual stageas being sold locally.. so your in luck there.

I think if you are really used to have a manual - then the auto is going to make you go off the car pretty fast.. dont get me wrong.. its an ok auto - but the tiptronic is a bit of a let down.

though - if you want a " cruiser" then the auto might be a good idea

the ideal solution would be to have a fun/track car and the stagea for cruising.

I hated the auto so much i converted it. but its no better or worse than any other auto car, I just think they all suck.

so, I'm trying to say, if you don't mind autos, get an auto stagea (they are a fair bit cheaper). little bit slower and use a little more fuel, but some people don't like clutch pedals, especially in traffic

I hated the auto so much i converted it. but its no better or worse than any other auto car, I just think they all suck.

so, I'm trying to say, if you don't mind autos, get an auto stagea (they are a fair bit cheaper). little bit slower and use a little more fuel, but some people don't like clutch pedals, especially in traffic

Well sorry guys but i am the opposite ,I drive a falcon ute with triptronic and it doesn`t compare to my Stagea.

Best of both worlds, look on Utube at the GTR film , He leaves it in auto3.3 0-100 11.3 standing quarter not bad ehh

I am glad I am not the only one that likes the triptronic...I worked as a driving instructor in a manual car and it was enought to put anyone off using a clutch for good!(using the duel control clutch)....that being said there is the odd occation when I would like total control and a clutch..but for anyone that is a general city driver that wants a sporty feel when the time is right...the triptronic is great....its almost like having two diferent cars...when I put mine in triptronic mode, it does little backfires when I backoff..burbles..gets the blow off puffing..or I can put it in auto and put around.

I would love one of each....a manual and a tiptronic however have to settle for just the tiptronic at this stage as most of my time driving to/from work during weekdays is spent in slow traffic.....

The manual would be great if you didn't mind the left foot work and the traffic conditions permitted.....

I have to admit to being an Auto fan. My wife does a fair bit of driving in it and she loves the ease of the auto. When I take it out for a spin, I enjoy having the option of tiptronic. What I think is best is using the gearstick to change gears in tiptronic mode. The buttons on the steering wheel are great too, but for me, I like clicking through the gears when giving it some hammer. The long spread between the 4 gears is a good feature too. You can go anywhere from 10k's to 130k's in second and its handy to get some engine braking when going down hills.

Speaking of which, I am heading down the coast this weekend for a bit of fun with the family. Going down towards Macquarie Pass, so looking forward to using the tiptronic through the twisties.

I think most of the people said it here...it's all down to personal choice.

I've got an auto purely due to the fact that manuals command a high price (when i looked they were around 22-25k). Also given my height and size it's kinda awkward to drive manual in this (I've tried driving my mates R33 Skyline manual and found that I smashed my knee on the steering wheel).

In a perfect world I would get an manual (possibly converting mine). But its down to how you drive, where you drive and most importantly how do you want to drive

Like mentioned above Auto/Tiptronic is good for "cruising," but driving becomes very very boring when you are driving a 1700kg go-kart (obviously tiptronic less like this). Manual all the way for me, always in control and you are actually driving your car.

Yes it is a "family" wagon and built for it, but deep down its just a fat skyline and everyone knows how they would wanna drive one of them :). If you go the import route you will find that you aren't paying much more for the manual and to me its well worth it.

GO MANUAL ;)

Opinions are like..... and here's mine!

I was going to buy a manual, but in the end I am glad that settled on the auto. I have said it before that the auto box isn't like any other. The control of it is very sophisticated, It adjusts the engine timing during shifting, which is why they backfire on changes. mine always does it flat out from 1st to 2nd and 3rd to 4th.

I have driven my car at Wanneroo in both auto and tiptronic. The tiptronic is a little hard, to get the hang of, because the down-shifts, and up-shifts don't always happen when you want or expect them to.

I found it better to leave it in full auto and concentrated on my steering. I think that the car goes superbly for a 1700kg monster. I have also managed 14.99 1/4 mile. I don't really think that in manual form the car is any quicker. It would just feel like it is. Also to really need a full manual, you would have to be pushing it to the limits, and often. My advice is if you are buying a Stagea, opt for the auto, if you want a fast manual car, buy a GTR..... (of course price and space are very different).

The only form that I really reckon that the manual would be better is in the RS260, which they all are, of course. Then you can have it all, (as long as you spend a shit-load on suspension, brakes and tyres).

I am off to AHG raceway on Monday arvo, I'll try the tiptronic again, and see how it is. I think that it is good for holding gears and giving control, but not necessarily faster. The 4wd can cope with a little bit of weight transfer due the gear changes, even when they happen on bends. Once I gained full confidence in the car, there is only one word for the Stagea....Awesome!

i have loved manuals since dot..

All my nissan sports cars have been manuals. But this car is for fun but also just to be a bit more versitile.

I honestly dont know if i will miss manual driving, but when i got into a tiptronic stagea i was not unimpressed.

If it really gets to the point that i miss a manual that much ill just go out and buy a manual r32 again for some fun.. but i want it more for cruising now.. i have had my years of wasting bucks on cars ( my r33 i didnt spend as much on it as others thankfully).

Most people who think they are race car drivers buy manuals and dont know how to change gears correctly so an auto would beat them off the mark anyway.

Stagea's are not made for drift cars, so in my eyes a tiptronic is not a spit on what they are.

If i was buying an R34 2door GT-T there would be no option.. it would be manual or nothing.

My biggest thing was it had to be manual. But just for personal preference, really. I dont plan on doing track work, or towing, or anything like that. I bought it to be a fun car to drive as well as practical, so wanted a manual simply to be more in touch with the car. That is all!

As promised my ideas on the Tiptronic after an Afternoon at AHG raceway.

The tiptronic on it's own is still hard to master, mainly because (don't ask me why) the car is a little faster, in full auto. It revs higher and feels more responsive in the transmission.

I used the tiptronic to hold the car through the bends (and it's a very tight twisty track) this was better for the corners as when I was coming of the gas the box wouldn't change up and then kick down again. The car was power sliding at the same time, and the AWD held everything in check very nicely. When I came onto a straight a put it back into auto it instantly picked up revs without changing gear.

So it was then faster in Auto.

As I said earlier the cars are just awesome. The tiptronic auto in my mind is propably better, (and I don't think any slower) than the manual. I ran out of puff in the car, mainly because the AWD sytem is so good and there just isn't enough power to beat it. It is extremely well balanced.

As for the comment on tuning them. The auto version is quite tunable unless you want to go to extremes. Like I said before if you want that then maybe a 380hp Silvia (like I also got to drive today) is more in your line. I also drove a 1989 MR2, and that was pretty awesome too. A bit of an arm wrestle, but lots of fun. Still the Stagea in my mind is the best all-round package. MR2 = no back seat and no boot!!

I hardly drive the stagea anymore .. but I drove Jippas one with the " shift improver" and that did feel like it made a difference. Perhaps just " trick up " the autobox a bit .. with the MV shift kit.. maybe then you can have the best of both worlds?

My main gripe with the auto is just sluggish changes.. even in tiptronic they are not that fast

maybe we just got a munted auto

but I think it also goes back to the fact that I really like manuals ..

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